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Dear Friends

 

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This is what I did to get the most benefit out of those 2 80mm fans



I have 1 ssd and 1 2.5" hdd which i moved to the xdock, and removed the 2.5" cage like winter warrior did. So to improve airflow downstairs I added a 120mm on the psu side to intake air, and have my 80mm fans exhausting. I did this because I will have another mechanical drive to put in place of the ssd. The ssd can be mounted virtually anywhere with velcro tape.



You also asked for a picture of the xdock PCB. Take the note of the way the sata ports point. I think for the majority of 90 degree sata cables, they end up poionting towards the front of the case, which just doesnt work lol.

 

 

Great picture. I can see the progress in XDock PCB :)

 

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Another note about the 80 mms ... if you are going the water cooling route you can mount your pump down there (and possibly remove the 2.5 cage) and use the 80s to cool the pump.

 

 

Thank you very much for your advice.

 

EDIT

 

I have got good news, I have a new member to HAF XB EVO :) ...but this time she is a good friend, yep, woman :) She is trying to build her own machine and asked me for help, but the same system specification as mine is to expensive for her. The most expensive are CPU and GPU, what do you prefer for CPU, not Haswell, because they are expensive, but such CPU, which will be equal or a little less in performance as i5 4670K (are there any from Ivy Bridge). I do not know much about these CPU (IB), and I do not want her to mislead. Any advice? CPU + CPU Cooler AIO + GPU (I think that GTX 760 will be enough).

 

Thank you in advance sends from Maria.

 

Sincerely


Edited by VAMET - 2/14/14 at 2:21am
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Rearranged my room and desk today biggrin.gif
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MUCH better smile.gif I didnt like it when the speakers was both on the same side of the monitor.. (Im guessing you are using them?) thumb.gif
BTW, I got my asus headset quite a while back (after you suggested it).. What a headset! comfortable to have on for long gaming sessions and awesome sound!
I also like that hard box for LAN transportation.
I read someware that the mic should be incredible low, even with boosts on max.. This is just not true..
I currently have no boost on my mic, and it is as loud / clear as my table mic at +20db boost.
Ppl who have had this problem should try to reinstall their drivers or something.
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Dear Friends

I have got good news, I have a new member to HAF XB EVO smile.gif ...but this time she is a good friend, yep, woman smile.gif She is trying to build her own machine and asked me for help, but the same system specification as mine is to expensive for her. The most expensive are CPU and GPU, what do you prefer for CPU, not Haswell, because they are expensive, but such CPU, which will be equal or a little less in performance as i5 4670K (are there any from Ivy Bridge). I do not know much about these CPU (IB), and I do not want her to mislead. Any advice? CPU + CPU Cooler AIO + GPU (I think that GTX 760 will be enough).

Thank you in advance sends from Maria.

Sincerely
Yey! new members thumb.gif Bring them all! male or female smile.gif but make sure she peaks in here too, and not just let you do all the talking wink.gif
If price is an object, I would say yea.. go with ivy bridge.. it is a good chip and in many cases, able to clock higher than haswell (or so I heard)
Cheaper CPU, somewhat cheaper mobo's.. so there should be a few dollars to save there..
3570K is the IB version of you 4670K (Unlocked I5 CPUs) Is she gonna be OCing? or she could go for the even cheaper "non K" 3570 CPU witch should be able to OC to about 4.0 (maybe a bit less)
IB can also be delidded if needed.

About the QL315, the radiator orientation still doesen't matter as discussed above, but as @welshy46 pointed out, the CPU cooler / pump might be slightly better in one direction vs turned 90 degree.. it should say that in the manual I think.
 
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Samsung 830 Series 120 GB Samsung 840Pro Series 256 GB Custom Loop (See Build Log) Win7 Ultimate 64bit 
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MUCH better smile.gif I didnt like it when the speakers was both on the same side of the monitor.. (Im guessing you are using them?) thumb.gif
BTW, I got my asus headset quite a while back (after you suggested it).. What a headset! comfortable to have on for long gaming sessions and awesome sound!
I also like that hard box for LAN transportation.
I read someware that the mic should be incredible low, even with boosts on max.. This is just not true..
I currently have no boost on my mic, and it is as loud / clear as my table mic at +20db boost.
Ppl who have had this problem should try to reinstall their drivers or something.


When I reinstalled to my windows 8 my mic locked to low, all I had to do was install my motherboard audio drivers, and then I discovered windows locked it down to 46 percent. Absolute perfect crystal sound now, very happy.

Took my 6 bloody hours to re arrange my room and re build my desk, but happy with how I have my speaker set up now biggrin.gif
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post #7164 of 10491
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Originally Posted by VAMET View Post

Dear Friends


Great picture. I can see the progress in XDock PCB smile.gif


Thank you very much for your advice.

EDIT

I have got good news, I have a new member to HAF XB EVO smile.gif ...but this time she is a good friend, yep, woman smile.gif She is trying to build her own machine and asked me for help, but the same system specification as mine is to expensive for her. The most expensive are CPU and GPU, what do you prefer for CPU, not Haswell, because they are expensive, but such CPU, which will be equal or a little less in performance as i5 4670K (are there any from Ivy Bridge). I do not know much about these CPU (IB), and I do not want her to mislead. Any advice? CPU + CPU Cooler AIO + GPU (I think that GTX 760 will be enough).

Thank you in advance sends from Maria.

Sincerely

I've got the IB version, the 3570k in my rig running at 4.2, I've been extremely happy with it, but even at stock speeds it breezed through any game i threw at it. And as GaMbi said if not overclocking go with non-k version.

If you are not set on a AIO cooler for the CPU you could save some money by going with something like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo I used one of these in my parents rig with a 3570(non K) it's a very good cooler for pretty cheap.

As for mobo I've been using an Asrock z77 extreme4 and have been very happy. I would bet you could get it fairly cheap to as it's an IB board. Asrock also makes the z77 Pro3 board which is very good as well just won't overclock as well as the extreme4. I used the Pro3 in my parents computer as well and it's been rock solid so far.
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Dear GaMbi2004

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Yey! new members thumb.gif Bring them all! male or female smile.gif but make sure she peaks in here too, and not just let you do all the talking wink.gif
If price is an object, I would say yea.. go with ivy bridge.. it is a good chip and in many cases, able to clock higher than haswell (or so I heard)
Cheaper CPU, somewhat cheaper mobo's.. so there should be a few dollars to save there..
3570K is the IB version of you 4670K (Unlocked I5 CPUs) Is she gonna be OCing? or she could go for the even cheaper "non K" 3570 CPU witch should be able to OC to about 4.0 (maybe a bit less)
IB can also be delidded if needed.

About the QL315, the radiator orientation still doesen't matter as discussed above, but as @welshy46 pointed out, the CPU cooler / pump might be slightly better in one direction vs turned 90 degree.. it should say that in the manual I think.

 

 

As soon as she will buy new computer, she we be able to register here :) She always prefer notebooks, not desktops, but I have convince her with a help of HAF XB EVO, so in some case, it's your share, because you convince me to buy it! :) I have talked with her at the moment and her final decision is not going to OC.

 

In Polish shops price between i5 3570 (without K) and i5 4670 are 40 PLN, so it's 9,51E or 12,99$, so it's not much I think, but it's her decision.

 

What are the differences in performance between let's say i5 3570 3.4GHz and i5 3570K (OC to >4.0GHz), is it visible in games?

The same question about i5 4670 3.4GHz and i5 4670K (OC to >4.0GHz)?

 

Which one 3570 or 4670 is easier to cool with CPU Cooler AIO?

If she will not going with OC, the LQ310 (the lowest version of Zalman AIO), will be enough in stock 3.4GHz for 3570 or 4670?

 

What is your advice for motherboard for those two CPUs? She will not going to OC, she doesn't need RAID (she will use 1xSSD and 1xHDD 7200), no optical drive, no sound card, only one GPU, 2x4GB 1333 or 1600MHz. I know there are B85 chipset for Haswell without RAID and some bonuses, which she will not use. Maybe even mATX instead ATX, when she will not use more then 1xPCI-E 3.0 x16? Are there any huge differences between motherboard ATX or mATX?

 

What do you think?

 

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I've got the IB version, the 3570k in my rig running at 4.2, I've been extremely happy with it, but even at stock speeds it breezed through any game i threw at it. And as GaMbi said if not overclocking go with non-k version.

If you are not set on a AIO cooler for the CPU you could save some money by going with something like a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo I used one of these in my parents rig with a 3570(non K) it's a very good cooler for pretty cheap.

As for mobo I've been using an Asrock z77 extreme4 and have been very happy. I would bet you could get it fairly cheap to as it's an IB board. Asrock also makes the z77 Pro3 board which is very good as well just won't overclock as well as the extreme4. I used the Pro3 in my parents computer as well and it's been rock solid so far.

 

 

Why going for chipset Z77 without going CPU OC? She said to me, when I advice her an Air Cooler: "I prefer to pay less for motherboard and CPU without OC, but I WANT AIO CPU Cooler!!!", ech women. Zalman LQ310 is one of the cheapest AIO on the market I think, but I don't know, what will be it's performance on 3570 or 4670 on stock 3.4GHz.

 

Best regards.

 

Sincerely


Edited by VAMET - 2/14/14 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by VAMET View Post

Dear GaMbi2004


Why going for chipset Z77 without going CPU OC? She said to me, when I advice her an Air Cooler: "I prefer to pay less for motherboard and CPU without OC, but I WANT AIO CPU Cooler!!!", ech women. Zalman LQ310 is one of the cheapest AIO on the market I think, but I don't know, what will be it's performance on 3570 or 4670 on stock 3.4GHz.

Best regards.

Sincerely

I use a thermaltake water 2.0 performer. Very similar to the Zalman LQ310. I have an overclocked 3570k @ 4.5ghz with 1.14vcore. Ambient temp of 18c. Idles 24 -17 -21 -18 across the cores. Been a while since i've run prime, but with rad fans (comes with 2) on low speed (1200) I get max load temps of 60-65c

EDIT: I just did a quick run (5mins large) max temps were 55-60c using only 1 cougar 120mm. This is my current set up
Edited by Jugurnot - 2/14/14 at 8:06am
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This was done a while back, but you can see that it performs very well. I would assume the Zalaman Q310 is comparable
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Dear GaMbi2004

What are the differences in performance between let's say i5 3570 3.4GHz and i5 3570K (OC to >4.0GHz), is it visible in games?

Sorry for the multiple posts.... I am a forum rookie haha.

If im not mistaken the K version of a chip is just an unlocked version. Meaning when overclocking you have access to more multipliers. So an i5-3570 at 3.4 should perform the same as a 3570k at 3.4. But im no expert so dont quote me on this.

I will play battlefield 4 tonight with the chip at stock, and at 4.0, and ill let you know any noticable differences.
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Dear Jugurnot

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Sorry for the multiple posts.... I am a forum rookie haha.

If im not mistaken the K version of a chip is just an unlocked version. Meaning when overclocking you have access to more multipliers. So an i5-3570 at 3.4 should perform the same as a 3570k at 3.4. But im no expert so dont quote me on this.

I will play battlefield 4 tonight with the chip at stock, and at 4.0, and ill let you know any noticable differences.

 

 

Thank you very much for your time, it would be great to see, what differences are in games, when 3570K 3.4GHz and 3570K 4.0GHz.

 

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This was done a while back, but you can see that it performs very well. I would assume the Zalaman Q310 is comparable

 

 

If so, there Zalman LQ310 will be more then enough for 3570K, but what about 4670K? :) Who knows...

 

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Originally Posted by Jugurnot View Post

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I use a thermaltake water 2.0 performer. Very similar to the Zalman LQ310. I have an overclocked 3570k @ 4.5ghz with 1.14vcore. Ambient temp of 18c. Idles 24 -17 -21 -18 across the cores. Been a while since i've run prime, but with rad fans (comes with 2) on low speed (1200) I get max load temps of 60-65c

EDIT: I just did a quick run (5mins large) max temps were 55-60c using only 1 cougar 120mm. This is my current set up

 

 

Nice, but it's Ivy Bridge. I wonder, what temperatures will be at load with 4670K 4.2GHz and stock 3.4GHz.

 

Best regards.

 

Sincerely

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Originally Posted by VAMET View Post

Dear Jugurnot

Thank you very much for your time, it would be great to see, what differences are in games, when 3570K 3.4GHz and 3570K 4.0GHz.


If so, there Zalman LQ310 will be more then enough for 3570K, but what about 4670K? smile.gif Who knows...


Nice, but it's Ivy Bridge. I wonder, what temperatures will be at load with 4670K 4.2GHz and stock 3.4GHz.

Best regards.

Sincerely

Not a problem at all.

I thought you/she wasn't interested in haswell?
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