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If you haven't ordered it yet, I'll be needing a windowed top too, we could order together if you like and split the bill. That way we (hopefully) both save on shipping a little

Hey, I assume you live near me?? If we do this, it saves us about $12 each... smile.gif
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Hey, I assume you live near me?? If we do this, it saves us about $12 each... smile.gif

I'm in Brampton, if you're in Guelph that's about an hours drive, might not actually end up being that much savings when you factor in the drive but it's something to consider
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Decided with this tax return to finally purchase a second 670 since I've been meaning to do so for the past few months. Since they're becoming really rare new without being over $450, I bought a refurbished MSI reference on eBay for $239 with free shipping.

New fans! Since one of my older Cooler Master LED fans went out, been using one of the stock ones temporarily. Also since one of my Corsair fans went out last week, decided just to order a new set. Got 2 - CM JetFlo and 2 - Rosewill fans, both are red LEDs.


Top card is the "new" one. The smaller PCB is certainly a bit awkward, since the heatsink sticks off the card so much. Seems kind of unnecessary to me. Not planning on putting these underwater anytime soon. Don't have the budget to do so.


This would be the jungle of wires and tubes in the lower half of my case. Had a heck of a time getting the other 2 PCI-e cables plugged in. Had to unscrew the PSU bracket and unplug a few cables.


Got the cards installed, fit well together. Also still have plenty of room between my rad fans and the cards. Still not a fan of the power connectors in the middle of the GPU. Just looks weird.


Got everything all connected powered on. The Rosewill fan LEDs are very bright and I'm impressed with them compared to the JetFlo. They don't push as much air as the JetFlo fans, but they're pretty quiet. Believe I have both sets throttled down though, but CPU temps are still pretty cool, ranging from 30-33C on full load.



Performance has drastically increased compared to just a single 670. Can check the link below for the before and after to see how much of a difference a second card made on 3DMark Fire Strike test. Of course both of the tests are invalid because I was using beta drives both now and back when I last ran the test, but I'm impressed on the increase.
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/956920/fs/1739497
Edited by Lareson - 2/18/14 at 8:44pm
post #7324 of 10491
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So... with enough youtube time and forum searching... I have decided to delid my 4770k. I need to gather some thermal pastes... do we have solid suggestions? Thus far I am seeing that "Liquid Pro" is the best for the actual chip to ihs. Then arctic silver for ihs to cooling block. Qustion is, what Liquid Pro is it that I need and which Arctoc Silver os the best?

-Justified

I have used Arctic Silver with good results, but from what i've read (and what i'm going to be buying as soon as my arctic silver runs out) Shin Etsu is one of the better ones out there.



now this chart here shows relative performance of different kinds, and actually shows the Shin Etsu (X23-7783D) that I have heard is so good to be fairly far down the list. I have also heard though that between most of the "good" thermal compounds there is a very small amount of actual temperature difference, so any of the top ones should do you just find.

Also if there is anyone else who knows more about this please chime in, this is all just what I have read and heard, the only ones that I have any real experience with are Arctic Silver and MX-4, the MX-4 did seem to preform a little better, but it's hard to really be sure that's the case because the MX-4 was used on a completely different set of hardware then what the Arctic Silver is being used on now.
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I'm in Brampton, if you're in Guelph that's about an hours drive, might not actually end up being that much savings when you factor in the drive but it's something to consider

Brampton eh? Hmm... My brother in law's parents live there so I do go there randomly. Not often enough to be able to really plan on being there any time specifically. Stay in touch and maybe we can figure something out. Wether you are coming to Guelph or I to Brampton.

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I have used Arctic Silver with good results, but from what i've read (and what i'm going to be buying as soon as my arctic silver runs out) Shin Etsu is one of the better ones out there.



now this chart here shows relative performance of different kinds, and actually shows the Shin Etsu (X23-7783D) that I have heard is so good to be fairly far down the list. I have also heard though that between most of the "good" thermal compounds there is a very small amount of actual temperature difference, so any of the top ones should do you just find.

Also if there is anyone else who knows more about this please chime in, this is all just what I have read and heard, the only ones that I have any real experience with are Arctic Silver and MX-4, the MX-4 did seem to preform a little better, but it's hard to really be sure that's the case because the MX-4 was used on a completely different set of hardware then what the Arctic Silver is being used on now.

Nice find on the chart! Maybe I should look into the top ine there, the Indego Extreme? Upon educating myself via google, Liquid Pro is just the single item so I think the material for the chip to ihs is solved.

More advice and or findings welcome. Perhaps I should ring the door bell on one of the delid threads... biggrin.gif
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I feel you man! I'm from Brampton (I'll update my profile when I get home) and I thank God every day that we invested in a snowblower before this winter

Toronto condo living ftw. biggrin.gif
    
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Brampton eh? Hmm... My brother in law's parents live there so I do go there randomly. Not often enough to be able to really plan on being there any time specifically. Stay in touch and maybe we can figure something out. Wether you are coming to Guelph or I to Brampton.
Nice find on the chart! Maybe I should look into the top ine there, the Indego Extreme? Upon educating myself via google, Liquid Pro is just the single item so I think the material for the chip to ihs is solved.

More advice and or findings welcome. Perhaps I should ring the door bell on one of the delid threads... biggrin.gif

I am personally running the Liquid Pro on my CPU, I chose it because it yielded the best results under load on water cooling, and I am running an old AMD Phenom II 565 3.4 that is unlocked to quad core and then overclocked to 3.7Ghz. On air she ran hot, like 45* C idle hot, with a hefty cooler and Artic Silver 5. When I changed over to watercooling idle temps dropped to 30* C on Artic Silver 5, and then the change to Liquid Pro (mind you its not delidded) dropped it to an average of 28* idle. Max Load never see's over 36*.

All in all its a great product if you just HAVE to get it cooler, but for the mini heart attack I had when it Squirted out and splattered on the rag covering the motherboard, its not worth it. Being solid liquid form metal, its highly conductive and a PITA to apply, q-tips just soak it all up until you get half the tube on the processor, wasted, I used a small paint brush I could throw away afterwards and it worked ok. Took about 15 mins to get it layered properly, tho.

Its good stuff, but if I have to do it again, I will go another route. 1-2*C isn't worth the hassle. Just my 2 cents.
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I am personally running the Liquid Pro on my CPU, I chose it because it yielded the best results under load on water cooling, and I am running an old AMD Phenom II 565 3.4 that is unlocked to quad core and then overclocked to 3.7Ghz. On air she ran hot, like 45* C idle hot, with a hefty cooler and Artic Silver 5. When I changed over to watercooling idle temps dropped to 30* C on Artic Silver 5, and then the change to Liquid Pro (mind you its not delidded) dropped it to an average of 28* idle. Max Load never see's over 36*.

All in all its a great product if you just HAVE to get it cooler, but for the mini heart attack I had when it Squirted out and splattered on the rag covering the motherboard, its not worth it. Being solid liquid form metal, its highly conductive and a PITA to apply, q-tips just soak it all up until you get half the tube on the processor, wasted, I used a small paint brush I could throw away afterwards and it worked ok. Took about 15 mins to get it layered properly, tho.

Its good stuff, but if I have to do it again, I will go another route. 1-2*C isn't worth the hassle. Just my 2 cents.

For that extra 1-2C it doesn't seem worth money or risk of damages when applying, I'm recently using Arctic Cooling MX-4 which has knocked off about 3-5C off the crap that came with my h100.

Also your CPU, I overclocked my 965 x4 to 4GHz on my H80 for about a year but that thing was knocking it's head around 55C when gaming, and I hope to start over clocking my FX8320 soon, just need to update my bios first.
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only reason why I havent used liquid pro yet on my i7-3770; one you apply it, thats it lol
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only reason why I havent used liquid pro yet on my i7-3770; one you apply it, thats it lol

Did you get the 3770 or the 3770K ?
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