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Originally Posted by aludka View Post

Hey, does anyone here have a Cooler Master Glacer? If so can you get back to me about what you think about it. Pump noise, performance, etc. I sold off a lot of my custom loop stuff because it was just getting too cramped an I'm on the fence about getting one of these, but the reviews are really mixed about pump noise and I've found a bunch of reviews with problems about the wire harness inside the pump/block shorting out and burning up. Thank you,
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Originally Posted by TLSheff View Post

I don't have the Glacer but I have the older brother Eisberg. The Eisberg has a more powerful pump, the same expand-ability, and is usually cheaper, plus the pump doubles as the reservoir so its not fixed onto the radiator like the Glacier is. But regardless of all that, the Eisberg pump is more powerful and runs at a higher decibels but its not that loud at all. If I put my head next to the case I can hear the pump whirling, but otherwise the sound from both graphics cards fans overcasts the pump. If its that loud, there is likely a problem and you'd want to consider a RMA, regardless of which AIO Cooler you purchase.

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EDIT: Didn't even think about performance scale. I'm running a AMD AM3 3.4 Dual Core, that is unlocked to a Quad Core and then overclocked to 3.7GHz... idle kicks around at 27-28* depending on ambient temps (house stays about 70*s consistantly)... under load I see 36* while gaming, it spiked up to 45* once during a 22 hour run on Prime95 variable torture test.

All in all the Eisberg 240L get a A+ in my book, only thing better is a full custom loop. Glacer is just the newer model and would be about the same performance give or take a few *'s. Hope this helps.
 

 

That actually depends heavily on which version of the Glacer you buy. The 240 and 360 versions are the Swiftech H220 Rebranded to be sold in the USA. Those have an MCP35x pump mounted on the waterblock almost identical to the Apogee Drive II. 

 

The Eisberg uses the Alphacool DC-LT pump which is much weaker and louder than any other DDC or D5. 

 

I know CoolerMaster released the 140/280mm versions of the Glacer without Swiftech, so i don't know what pump is used in those. The Glacer 240 or 360 would definitely be the bigger brother to the Eisberg though.

The H220 is the pretty much the highest quality CLC you can buy.

 

THIS is the Glacer 240

 

 

"Glacer 240L Semi-DIY CPU watercooler, designed in the United States by Swiftech and Cooler Master."

 

The whole reason the Glacer series was even released is because Zalman got Swiftech's H220 Patent pulled in the USA. I think it was a brilliant business move by CM & Swiftech.

 

That pump/block is pretty much an Apogee Drive II without the heatsink though

 


Edited by kpoeticg - 3/6/14 at 3:15pm
    
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post #7562 of 10491
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That actually depends heavily on which version of the Glacer you buy. The 240 and 360 versions are the Swiftech H220 Rebranded to be sold in the USA. Those have an MCP35x pump mounted on the waterblock almost identical to the Apogee Drive II. 

The Eisberg uses the Alphacool DC-LT pump which is much weaker and louder than any other DDC or D5. 

I know CoolerMaster released the 140/280mm versions of the Glacer without Swiftech, so i don't know what pump is used in those. The Glacer 240 or 360 would definitely be the bigger brother to the Eisberg though.
The H220 is the pretty much the highest quality CLC you can buy.

THIS is the Glacer 240




"Glacer 240L Semi-DIY CPU watercooler, designed in the United States by Swiftech and Cooler Master."

The whole reason the Glacer series was even released is because Zalman got Swiftech's H220 Patent pulled in the USA. I think it was a brilliant business move by CM & Swiftech.

That pump/block is pretty much an Apogee Drive II without the heatsink though



The Glacer has a MCP35x? Are you sure? The Apogee Drive ii is almost 140 by itself. I was under the impression that the Glacer used a lesser pump, hence the frequent noise complaints.

The 140/280 is the Nepton. I'm not looking at those.
post #7563 of 10491
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Originally Posted by kpoeticg View Post

That actually depends heavily on which version of the Glacer you buy. The 240 and 360 versions are the Swiftech H220 Rebranded to be sold in the USA. Those have an MCP35x pump mounted on the waterblock almost identical to the Apogee Drive II. 

The Eisberg uses the Alphacool DC-LT pump which is much weaker and louder than any other DDC or D5. 

I know CoolerMaster released the 140/280mm versions of the Glacer without Swiftech, so i don't know what pump is used in those. The Glacer 240 or 360 would definitely be the bigger brother to the Eisberg though.
The H220 is the pretty much the highest quality CLC you can buy.

Not actually true brochacho... close. I won't argue the use of the DC-LT pump vs the DDC or D5s but the Eisberg is still big brother. Glacer is newer and using most definitely higher tech with the pump and rebranded H220 awesomeness.

But directly from the CoolerMaster website specs... The Eisberg uses a 400 Liter/hr pump with high 50,000 hour lifespan. The Glacer only pumps at 165 L/hr but get a lifespan bump to 60,000 hours. That is for the 240L... not sure on the specs for the 360 but I would be surprised if the pump used is any different.
post #7564 of 10491
I have the glacier and I haven't had a problem with it. I can't hear the pump over the fans, and my cougars aren't loud at all. Its cools my CPU really well. I ran prime 95 for an hour while it was overclocked to 4.8 and the temps never exceeded 60 degrees Celsius. I was playing assassins creed black flag and the temps were in the high 30s.
post #7565 of 10491
The glacer/h220 have the same pump, block, and rad. It is not the apogee drive 2 either. If the pump is noisy its because there is air inside, or some other mechanical fault is present. I just hooked my h220 up last night, right away the pump was noisy, but a few good shakes of my rig worked them out. At 3000 max rpm the pump is quieter than the helix fans it comes with.
post #7566 of 10491

The Apogee Drive II is an MCP35x mounted with an Apogee HD as it's Pump Top basically. When i say it's like an Apogee Drive, i don't mean it "IS" one. I mean it's a DDC mounted on an Apogee-Type Waterblock.

I've always been under the impression that the H220/Glacer was a 35x, but maybe i've been wrong about it.

 

Ok, just looked it up. The H220/Glacer is a PWM MCP350 mounted on an Apogee XT waterblock. 

 

I understand that maybe the specs look better for the Eisberg on the CM website, but even a PWM MCP350 is a much better quality pump than the DC-LT. 

 

I really don't know how you could consider the DC-LT a big brother to it =\

 

I understand what you're saying about the CM specs. But it isn't a special CM pump or anything. The DC-LT is pretty much the cheapest pump on the market. You can grab it at FCPU for like 29.99 right now.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14977/ex-pmp-178/Alphacool_DC-LT_Ceramic_12V_DC_Pump_w_RPM_-_Bulk_Version.html?id=2L7WJn3I&mv_pc=29359#blank

 

This is the pump in the Glacer

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_201&products_id=2539

 

Except the Glacer adds PWM to it (which is why i always figured it was a 35x)

 

Edit: Try to keep in mind that CM is only really putting a label on the Glacer. It's literally the Swiftech H220 with a different label on it so it can be legally sold in the US. So it doesn't really matter when CM started selling the "Glacer" :p

 

The Glacer was around for a while as the H220 before Zalman got Swiftech's Patent pulled. It didn't start being sold after the Eisberg. 

 

The Eisberg isn't really that new either. Alphacool's been selling the same pump/res combo for a while also. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14981/ex-pmp-182/Alphacool_DC-LT_Ceramic_12V_DC_Pump_Plexi_Top_Reservoir_-_Installed.html?tl=g30c107s152&id=2L7WJn3I&mv_pc=30256#blank

 

 

CM just mounted it on a waterblock

 

When you know the exact hardware that's inside the CM Package, you don't need to really pay any attention to CM's specs. And i'm not trying to knock CM. That goes for any company in similar situations.

 

Scythe can tell me how Grand Flex's are better than GT's til they're blue in the face. But the fact is that Nidec made the GT's and Scythe just put them in a box. 


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Hmm, it just hit me.. "Haswell in XB" is not much of a name :S

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