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should I upgrade my old/unbalanced PC now or should I wait for Haswell?

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So, I got a job a week ago, and I thought that it's time to upgrade my PC/gaming system now. I have a mid/low range PC from 2008, but the GPU that it's a GTX 560TI. I call it umbalanced because my system is hevily bottlenecking my GPU, I have been playing Battlefield 3 all low,1080 with frames between 45-55 in 32 players server and go deep to low 30's in bigger maps. I also want to play Skyrim with the S.T.E.P. graphics mods but on my current system is playing between 22-35 fps. Since those 2 are my main games for now, I want to ask if I should upgrade now or should I wait for Haswell? I don't know it's release date, but I think I read that's around March 2013, correct me if I'm wrong.

My current system spec are: AMD phenom 9600 @ 2.3GHz, ASrock N68-S, some cheap 4GB ram DDR2, a good Ultra LSP 750watts PSU and of course, the GTX 560TI

I plan to upgrade by parts, my first part of my upgrade plan are the main 3 hardware combination, mobo, cpu and ram

I was thinking about the i5-3570k or the 2500k, (leaning more toward ivy-bridge)
any good motherboard between $100 and $160, like a ASrock Z77, or any ASUS or MSI, Gigabyte with some Sata 6gb, USB 3.0, SLI cappability (I don't know if I'm going to SLI in the future) and that can overclock well (I'm a noob OC, I haven't tried it yet since my system wont help). I'll add that I wont OC now, I'll try it on my second upgrade session. And of course, at LEAST 8GB RAM. I have seen on newegg that you buy selected mobos they'll give you 8GB Gskill Ripjaw for free. like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157330, this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128542 and this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130644
If you could suggest me the best for that price range, it will be a GREAT help (first part would be as soon as possible, probably 2 to 3 weeks from today)

my second session of upgrade will be a big case, with the price range between $80-$140, a CPU cooling system like the corsair H-80, a SSD like the samsung 830 and a keybaord and mouse, leaning more toward Razer deathadder 2013 or the Taipan and the Razer Black Widow mechanical keyboard. (this could be for christmas time or january)

my third and last session would be a new GPU like the Nvidia GTX 770 and a 24" and 120Hz monitor (this could be from march to may)

I could probably hold until Christmas and I COULD upgrade the first and second session together, or if you think it's better to wait for Haswell then I might try to wait for it.

Well, If you want to suggest me some hardware, I'll point out that I'm leaning more toward Intel over AMD and Nvidia over ATI. Nvidia card performs better on the games I play (based on some benchmark I saw around the internet) AND if you think otherwise, please explain me better and I might consider them.
I'm a huge follower of overclock.net and I know it's a great community with good knowledge. Any suggestion will be great appreciated
thanks
post #2 of 4
I think go ahead and buy now. You are hurting with your current system, and Haswell is still 6 months away. No point waiting that long. Grab a 3570K and either the MSI or ASRock board you listed (whichever you like the layout on, performance will be the same) and I'd go ahead and add a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ EVO now also - no point waiting to overclock when it only costs $30.

If you live near a Microcenter it would be cheaper, since they have great in-store deals on the 3570K and motherboards.
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If BF3 is the "primary" battle at this point, then you should be looking at either the FX-8320, FX-8350, or Xeon E3-1230V2. All of these options are better than an i5 in BF3 for around the same cost or less. The FX chips offer the overclocking option, while the E3 is a locked chip that can do some mild overclocking via turbo-core, but can out-perform the i5 in BF3 in those 64 player games unless the i5 is clocked out to about 4.7GHZ (hard to do).

The free RAM deal is great and if it can work for you, then go for it. You have already linked to the "logical" options for your build on the intel front, there is also this option for an AMD build: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519

Best of luck with the build!
Eric
     
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
Mouse
logitec M235 
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Thanks for the answers guys, really appreciate it. First of all, I forgot to mention that I'm from Puerto Rico and I don't have a Microcenter near me. Right now I'm trying for the best performance/price ratio, and in most benchmarks I saw the 3570k better than the FX-8150 (haven't followed much info about the 8320 or 8350 performance over the 8150). My best option to purchase is those good deals from newegg, since all we have here is a Compusa that sells a little bit over price compared to main USA territory and including tax it rise a little bit more. From Newegg, the shipping is expensive (over $40.00 between mobo, cpu and ram only) but with the free ram deal, the price it's still lower than the price locally.

I didnt know about the coolermaster hyper 212+ evo, I thought that watercooling h-80 or h-100 were the best way to cool down the CPU to overclock and keep the system cool (i'm trying to aim to 4ghz, if I think I'll need more I'll try a little bit, but I dont want to go over 4.5ghz) so I might buy it then as soon as I can.

So this means I shouldnt wait for haswell and upgrade now. And btw mdocod, can you show me some benchmark with the performance of those cpu you mentioned compared to the i5? I'm starting to consider them since they are new and probably they could surprise me

thanks
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