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Disappointing if true.
Disappointing? Yes. Unexpected? No.

Such is the way of things. Any good business is going to cut costs where they can, in pursuit of the "sweet spot." It's a science, really. It's like finding the "perfect" algorithm for weather prediction. Or Moore's Law — things will halt when a point is reached where shrinking provides no additional benefit or actually becomes detrimental. Or how markets tend to shift towards a monopoly — point in case the GPU industry. Once it had several vendors, now it's down to two. As time approaches infinity, the probability of a monopoly becomes closer and closer to one. There are laws that prevent this, but unrestrained, the universe would favor a single, global distributor for pretty much every good.

In this case, it seems that the savings from soldering a chip to the system board outweigh the savings from flexible upgrades and individual component replacement. Caches used to be separate form the CPU — now they're integrated. Memory controllers are now integrated. Graphics are now integrated. Someday we probably won't have anything that resembles a motherboard at all.

I for one, embrace our new embedded overlords.
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Then i will hold on to my Ivy Bridge for a very very very long time then. Next thing you know, intel will stop adding PCI-E slots to mobos as well as USB and force every one to use onboard audio .
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Then i will hold on to my Ivy Bridge for a very very very long time then. Next thing you know, intel will stop adding PCI-E slots to mobos as well as USB and force every one to use onboard audio .
Do you really think that such a move isn't inevitable?

This is progress. Stop being so adverse to change.
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Do you really think that such a move isn't inevitable?
This is progress. Stop being so adverse to change.

Since when is denying the user the ability to customize their computer progress?
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Since when is denying the user the ability to customize their computer progress?
It's not about "the user" as an individual. It's about Intel's user base as a whole.
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Due to the market trends towards low-power microprocessors, Intel will offer various Broadwell multi-chip modules – which will contain Broadwell CPUs with integrated memory controller, graphics core, etc. and Wildcat Point input/output controllers – with various thermal design power envelopes, e.g., 10W, 15W and 47W/57W, according to the report.

This caught my attention as odd.

Haswell ULV will be MCM. I thought Broadwell ULV was going to introduce SOC. The TDPs listed only include mobile parts, are desktops not going to be MCM?
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Well, looks like Haswell will be my last processor then too.
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ITT: Upset reactionaries.
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It's not about "the user" as an individual. It's about Intel's user base as a whole.

That's how we got here in the first place. "In the beginning", (now trying to forget the Iron Maiden song...NotB), IBM's PC was all proprietary. The "Open" nature of the PC business model since then provided a huge amount of growth for the entire industry. Including this site. Is Intel trying to make the PC into an overgrown iPhone? From a monetary standpoint I'm sure some bean counter is saying they should...
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Is Intel trying to make the PC into an overgrown iPhone?
Yes. What's wrong with that?
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