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I don't remember the last time I ever upgraded my CPU in the past 20 years. Every time my PC was due for a upgrade it was a complete overhaul. Only exception is the video card which I upgraded at least twice with each build.

You'll probably find that it's not quite like that for many OCNers wink.gif
 
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post #152 of 276
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Do you really think that such a move isn't inevitable?
This is progress. Stop being so adverse to change.

probably an occupier, progress? yeah right!.......progress for who intels wallet and their monopoly on all things in your pc? it is never progress in a good way by taking options and flexibility away from the end users and consumers. This technology may be easier for them to make products easier but i fail to see where it would be that advantageous for improving speeds or anything of the sort. So the trade off should remain that they need to allow us as end users better flexibility and quit trying to cement and increase their market share because its been that way for years anyway.

fyi: I already run and intel ssd and have an msi mpower and 3770k for a rig rebuild on the way so I'm not an amd fanboy, just an advocate for more consumer options
Edited by oats2012 - 11/24/12 at 9:59am
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post #153 of 276
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Is Haswell coming out in 2050?

Is quantum computing coming out in 2050?
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post #154 of 276
Ugh... the world is following Apple. How sad.

This sucks if true.
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post #155 of 276
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Is quantum computing coming out in 2050?

its here already and in full production. http://www.dwavesys.com/

128qubit processors. 512qubits are coming soon. this is some seriously sick stuff!!!
post #156 of 276
This doesnt bother me too much because with the last few sockets, provided you picked the best bang/buck CPU there havent been any worthwhile upgrades (atleast for me, gamingwise) for the entire life of the socket.

Examples:

Socket 775: Q6600 overclocked, I could never justify the cost upgrade to Q9xxx or Q6xxx.
Socket 1366: i7-920 overclocked, I could never justify the cost upgrade to i7-970,980,990.
Socket 1156: Never owned one of these but same situation, why would a gamer upgrade to anything better than a i5-750 ?
Socket 1155: i5-2500k overclocked, unless they release an Ivy Bridge that can hit 5ghz without the heat issues... I'm not seeing any reason to upgrade.

Sure it's nice to have the flexibility but if there is significant cost savings that can be passed on by integrating CPU/Motherboard - I'm ok with that.
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post #157 of 276
The way I see it, to get around the customization thing, they could implement the same idea as going to a car manufacturer's website and doing a full customization (i.e. components, turbo or not, color scheme, and extra perks).

Example:
1) Go to site and pick the line of motherboards with a predetermined list of base stats (RAM Dimm slots, fan headers, Firewire/USB2/3 headers, and PCI/PCIe slots, etc.).

2) They give you the option to pick integrated sound or no integrated sound (This is based on user: Are you getting or do you own a discrete sound card).

3) Now you can pick the Processor that comes with it and whether you want a K-series or not. Also pick the Northbridge you want.

3) Color scheme (i.e. black and yellow, red and black, flat black, orange, blue and white). Whatever you want to get (even offer a custom color scheme for a little extra).

4) Extra perks: Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, on-board mSSD socket. Some may even come standard on the board but also offer upgrades.
post #158 of 276
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The way I see it, to get around the customization thing, they could implement the same idea as going to a car manufacturer's website and doing a full customization (i.e. components, turbo or not, color scheme, and extra perks).
Example:
1) Go to site and pick the line of motherboards with a predetermined list of base stats (RAM Dimm slots, fan headers, Firewire/USB2/3 headers, and PCI/PCIe slots, etc.).
2) They give you the option to pick integrated sound or no integrated sound (This is based on user: Are you getting or do you own a discrete sound card).
3) Now you can pick the Processor that comes with it and whether you want a K-series or not. Also pick the Northbridge you want.
3) Color scheme (i.e. black and yellow, red and black, flat black, orange, blue and white). Whatever you want to get (even offer a custom color scheme for a little extra).
4) Extra perks: Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, on-board mSSD socket. Some may even come standard on the board but also offer upgrades.

That would be rather expensive. With the cars price per unit is high enough to warrant this, but with motherboards I'm sure it would be worth it economically - I mean the manufacturing lines are not intended to at the same time mobos with 7x pci-e slots and 6x pci + 1x pci-e, for example.
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That would be rather expensive. With the cars price per unit is high enough to warrant this, but with motherboards I'm sure it would be worth it economically - I mean the manufacturing lines are not intended to at the same time mobos with 7x pci-e slots and 6x pci + 1x pci-e, for example.

Actually, coming from industrial automation, creating a line that is able to configure multiple options is not that difficult. All the assembly lines I've been on the team for all use individual asset tracking, meaning each product is technically already owned by someone and produced for them specifically. Once the product has started to be sold, they watch trends in which hardware configurations are most popular and make extras of those.
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It's just a plan to cut design costs and offset elsewhere... No big deal.

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