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If Intel doesn't have to worry about maintaining socket compatibility, they could push DDR4 adoption earlier.
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post #192 of 276
I hope the people defending this move are shareholders
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I hope the people defending this move are shareholders

nope, we just know how to read,
post #194 of 276
i think the article was a lost in translation thing

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/column/ubiq/20121122_574440.html

it just says that the next tic and toc was more optimized for AIO and tablet stuff , and it raises question if its going to be another LGA CPU type or a new change because the PC market is shrinking because of the AIO and tablet and all that stuff

that was all , it doesnt say that intel wont release a LGA or anything like that , maybe that tic and toc is more for tablets and small stuff , i dont know frown.gif
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So sad to witness the end of an are but I think we all knew it was coming. Laptop sales continue to outpace desktops more and more every year, now mobile is grabbing a chunk of those sales. I had a woman come into my computer shop last week to buy a used $99 desktop b/c, and I quote, "I use my tablet for everything".

There are a couple years left of the kind of high end desktop building we all do here on the site. Past that what will the landscape look like? Not so good the for the enthusiast. We will be still be able to spend big money and buy fast computers but a lot of the components will be integrated. I remember the first computers I owned and upgraded, almost nothing was on board. Drive controllers were an add-in card, sound, networking, just about everything that is integrated into motherboards today and increasingly into the CPU itself.

Brave new frontiers can be scary and we may end up losing some freedom but there will also be exciting new capabilities and form factors as well.
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post #196 of 276
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Originally Posted by TranquilTempest View Post

If Intel doesn't have to worry about maintaining socket compatibility, they could push DDR4 adoption earlier.

Intel doesn't worry about maintaining socket compatibility anyway.
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Intel doesn't worry about maintaining socket compatibility anyway.

Lol, this.

When was the last time Intel kept a socket for a major architecture change? rolleyes.gif

To my knowledge, they've only kept three sockets in their whole PGA/LGA life... mPGA478 which housed two generations of Pentium 4, LGA775, which took the last generation of Pentium 4 and the whole Core2 platform (even if older motherboards weren't compatible at all), and LGA1155, which has held Sandy and Ivy Bridge.


Anyway, if Intel kills the desktop and AMD does nothing about it, I'm going ARM. Computer-in-a-board clusters is where it is at.
   
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Lol, this.
When was the last time Intel kept a socket for a major architecture change? rolleyes.gif
To my knowledge, they've only kept three sockets in their whole PGA/LGA life... mPGA478 which housed two generations of Pentium 4, LGA775, which took the last generation of Pentium 4 and the whole Core2 platform (even if older motherboards weren't compatible at all), and LGA1155, which has held Sandy and Ivy Bridge.
Anyway, if Intel kills the desktop and AMD does nothing about it, I'm going ARM. Computer-in-a-board clusters is where it is at.
When was the last time Intel didn't keep a socket for a die shrink?
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This actually isn't as bad as everyone thinks.

As it stands, Intel sells the same exact processor but splits it into many different SKUs.

For example take your typical Z77 mainstream board. A base quad core Intel processor will come pre-installed. Depending on what license you buy from Intel will depend on what processor you get.

Base quad core - $175
Quad core + OCing - $225
Quad core with H/T - $250
Quad core with H/T + OCing. - $300

This is the same pricing model we have now and that won't change in the future. The only difference is you can't physically swap processors.

Yes, change is scary and there will be some drawbacks to a small percentage of enthusiasts. If you take a step back and consider the entire marketplace (including OEMs like Dells, HP, etc), this makes all the sense in the world. Most people never even see their processor much less change it.

Selling licenses to have people "upgrade" their processors will be a nice boost to Intel's bottom line as far as consumers go. I have a hard time seeing businesses doing it considering they typically upgrade the PC altogether every few years. The amount of time and money it takes to create multiple SKUs from a sales and marketing standpoint will be good savings for Intel as well.
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So no more De-lidding?
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