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You have never opened a cheap laptop then?
I didn't know they soldered the chips to the laptops; I thought they used a pin system, like with the core 2 laptop processors.

Every laptop I've ever had or worked on other than Macs were a LGA/PGA package ranging from Socket 479 to H2, cheap and high-end alike. Tho lower end and ultra slim laptops typically use an embedded BGA chip.
 
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You have never opened a cheap laptop then?
I didn't know they soldered the chips to the laptops; I thought they used a pin system, like with the core 2 laptop processors.

Every laptop I've ever had or worked on other than Macs were a LGA/PGA package ranging from Socket 479 to H2, cheap and high-end alike. Tho lower end and ultra slim laptops typically use an embedded BGA chip.

Anything Atom or Bobcat for sure.
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Every laptop I've ever had or worked on other than Macs were a LGA/PGA package ranging from Socket 479 to H2, cheap and high-end alike. Tho lower end and ultra slim laptops typically use an embedded BGA chip.
I opened a dead thinkpad T61 and it had a chip with pins on it. I also opened a dead compaq and it had a chip with pins on it. They were both core 2 duo laptops.
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You're a joke if you think soldering CPUs to the motherboard, removing PCI-E slots and USB ports is a good idea. THIS is NOT progress, requiring a new motherboard every time you want to replace your CPU is stupid, there's very little point to it
Well, they're not removing PCIe ports, there's no way they could possibly ever do that, but removing the option of having a CPU isn't that big of a deal, especially with how rapidly Intel changes the socket anyway. The only exception to that would be the high end socket CPUs, but they will still be an open socket anyway.
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Every laptop I've ever had or worked on other than Macs were a LGA/PGA package ranging from Socket 479 to H2, cheap and high-end alike. Tho lower end and ultra slim laptops typically use an embedded BGA chip.

Low profile is KING. removable batteries - Pshaw!
 
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I've never tried installing a nonexistent CPU, but it sounds difficult.

Lol nice one. I eddited my post since I thought I may have blurted something bad out, that would have been a "no-no" on a contract... Then I found out that it didn't. Yeah, intel embedded cpus exist.
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Lol nice one. I eddited my post since I thought I may have blurted something bad out, that would have been a "no-no" on a contract... Then I found out that it didn't. Yeah, intel embedded cpus exist.
It surprised me; I thought they only soldered the Atoms to the board.
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It surprised me; I thought they only soldered the Atoms to the board.

I'm pretty sure that apple has been soldering chips to the board since the mac mini came out - the only macs I can say with certainty do NOT have soldered chips are tower machines (powermac/macpro).
 
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It surprised me; I thought they only soldered the Atoms to the board.

Yeah, im gonna have to go find my source, but I heard some computer manufacturers are having a bit of a hard time getting them soldered on. Intel does something weird to the CPU when they make it (I think its bent in certain way), and when the cpu is "pressed" on, things can break. Sorry about my weird comment before, I have people in the family that work for certain PC manufacturing companies, and I had to make sure I didn't screw up XD
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People on these sites seem to forget that they are the minority when it comes to the PC market. Most people wont even open their PC to clean the dust ouit of it let alone change out the CPU. This move is directed at the majority of PC users who either dont do much on their pc's or dont bother with overclocks.

This is completely aimed at OEM stuff with high end still remaining in the LGA platform most people will still be able to build nice high end pcs I would expect to see everything from the i3s and maby some i5s completly soldered on and the remaining high end i5s and i7s mostly staying on the LGA side

Besides with turbo boosts pushing up and over 4ghz most people dont NEED to OC their computers anyways
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People on these sites seem to forget that they are the minority when it comes to the PC market. Most people wont even open their PC to clean the dust ouit of it let alone change out the CPU. This move is directed at the majority of PC users who either dont do much on their pc's or dont bother with overclocks.

This is completely aimed at OEM stuff with high end still remaining in the LGA platform most people will still be able to build nice high end pcs I would expect to see everything from the i3s and maby some i5s completly soldered on and the remaining high end i5s and i7s mostly staying on the LGA side

Besides with turbo boosts pushing up and over 4ghz most people dont NEED to OC their computers anyways

You understand that these turbos are 1-2 Core only, and that the other cores must step down to give that to them?

They don't need to OC because hardware in general has moved beyond what most software can use. This will probably change for gaming when the next consoles come out, but Turbo certainly has nothing to do with it.
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