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post #11 of 38
11/23/12 at 5:28am
its not all good with korean monitors, atleast shimian have poor contrast compared to say u2713

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post #12 of 38
11/23/12 at 5:43am
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its not all good with korean monitors, atleast shimian have poor contrast compared to say u2713
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Sorry those graphs don't mean anything without any legends.
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post #13 of 38
11/23/12 at 7:15am
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The Korean S-IPS monitors deliver the same if not better image quality than the Dell U2713HM. AG coating is still an AG coating which means decreased image quality no matter how much you love Dell.

Dude, quit posting magnified pictures of pixels as if thats supposed to be exactly representative of what you actually see in practice. A light AG coating really isn't that big of a deal for most people.
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There is also a zero dead pixel guarantee for the Korean S-IPS monitors and even then, the Korean S-IPS monitors are much more affordable than the Dell U2713HM.

Yeah, that "warranty" doesn't cover stuck pixels or other blemishes. What happens if the display breaks in a couple of months? SOL?
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All things considered, Dell U2713HM is just not worth the extra money.

I couldn't justify it but for a lot of people it is. Its a lot less of a gamble, it has a real warranty, a higher quality panel, higher quality electronics, build quality, more features, and a real warranty. Yeah, it may be worth it to some people.

Do you sell these displays on ebay or something?
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post #14 of 38
11/23/12 at 7:30am
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The other ones are either poor quality (Asus PB278Q)...

I've gotten the impression that Koehler is basing his attitude towards the Asus on reviews (he once mentioned a negative CNET review that I was never able to find, though I did find a positive review from CNET.au) and hasn't actually seen one of these himself. I own the Asus PB278Q and have absolutely no complaints. Some people have reported issues with the DellU2713 (image burn in and a 'screen door' pattern on screen), and the Samsung was ~$180 more expensive after taxes here in Toronto, though some will be better served by the Samsung's higher PWM refresh rate. Also, I'm guessing that most of the Dells don't suffer the mentioned issues. If money isn't adeciding factor then I might look for the Samsung from a place where I could pick one up in-store (buying a monitor on-line sounds like a lot of work if there were any defects). Saying the Asus has poor quality though, is, in my opinion as an owner of the Asus PB278Q, very wrong. To say the Asus has poor quality while recommending the Korean models, in my opinion, is just silly.

Also, I paid $30 for a BluRay copy of 'The Avengers' just on account of how fantastic the effects look on this screen. Very Impressive.
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post #15 of 38
11/23/12 at 12:29pm
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AG coating is still an AG coating which means decreased image quality no matter how much you love Dell.
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I don't know why everyone on OCN has a love affair with glossy displays. I personally don't like looking into a mirror whenever there's something black on the screen. From my understanding, the PB278Q has a light enough AG coating so that the colors are still fairly vibrant (I don't need to feel like I'm constantly on LSD, I have a glossy display and a matte one, and the colors aren't THAT important to me), but it's also not a mirror.
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post #16 of 38
11/23/12 at 1:57pm
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Dude, quit posting magnified pictures of pixels as if thats supposed to be exactly representative of what you actually see in practice. A light AG coating really isn't that big of a deal for most people.
Yeah, that "warranty" doesn't cover stuck pixels or other blemishes. What happens if the display breaks in a couple of months? SOL?
I couldn't justify it but for a lot of people it is. Its a lot less of a gamble, it has a real warranty, a higher quality panel, higher quality electronics, build quality, more features, and a real warranty. Yeah, it may be worth it to some people.
Do you sell these displays on ebay or something?

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11/23/12 at 7:44pm
If you want the lowest possible input lag for gaming, consider HP ZR2740w v2:



http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/hp_zr2740w_v2.htm#input_lag

Just 3.6 ms compared to Asus which has 16.6 ms...
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post #18 of 38
11/23/12 at 9:13pm
I don't know about those tft central results. Some results are very different than what Prad.de measured with an oscilloscope. While the HP does have low input lag it apparently has a high response time. According to Prad it ghosts a bit.

I really do think that the single input Korean displays might be the best 2560x1440 displays as far as input lag and response time goes.

The samsung S27A850D actually seems to have a bit less input lag than the S27B970D.
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11/24/12 at 1:23am
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I couldn't justify it but for a lot of people it is. Its a lot less of a gamble, it has a real warranty, a higher quality panel, higher quality electronics, build quality, more features, and a real warranty. Yeah, it may be worth it to some people.
Do you sell these displays on ebay or something?

Evidence? When you say higher quality panel, you're ignoring the fact that the Korean monitors have better image quality because of no AG coating.

Higher quality electronics? Says who? Your imagination?

More features? Again, prove it.
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11/24/12 at 3:45am
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Oh damn looks like I have started a Monitor War here biggrin.gif

Anyways I would like to thank everyone who replied I really appreciate all the help.
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