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Hi folks!

I want the cheapest motherboard (doesn't have to be super cheap) that can do following:
6970 crossfire with space between them (my p6t has the 2 x16 pcie connectors extremely close, can see the pic in my sig.)
Be able to: 3570k @ 4.4ghz stable ( My p6t is terrible for overclocking, after a certain bclk bios starts lagging.)
Easy overclock bios.
Msi or Asus.
Fast boot (my p6t now uses like 20 seconds just getting to the 'windows is starting' message).

I dont really care how many sata or USb ports, only the above. Do I need to change my ram when moving to 1155 motherboard? Mine is 1366.



Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Kidio007 View Post

Hi folks!
I want the cheapest motherboard (doesn't have to be super cheap) that can do following:
6970 crossfire with space between them (my p6t has the 2 x16 pcie connectors extremely close, can see the pic in my sig.)
Be able to: 3570k @ 4.4ghz stable ( My p6t is terrible for overclocking, after a certain bclk bios starts lagging.)
Easy overclock bios.
Msi or Asus.
Fast boot (my p6t now uses like 20 seconds just getting to the 'windows is starting' message).
I dont really care how many sata or USb ports, only the above. Do I need to change my ram when moving to 1155 motherboard? Mine is 1366.
Thanks!
Asus P8Z77-V(Pro)
MSI Z77 MPower
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H
Asrock Z77 Extreme4
All great mobos ^
You will probably need to change RAM because I believe 1366 uses triple channel memory and 1155 is dual channel smile.gif
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It would help a lot if you give us a maximum budget. I wouldn't buy anything worse than Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H.

X8/X8 Crossfire config and capable of 4.6Ghz + OC. Gigabyte is updating their UEFI with Windows 8 fast boot, so it is pretty quick.
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Cheap and Asus? No go. MSI low end solutions are crappy too.
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It would help a lot if you give us a maximum budget. I wouldn't buy anything worse than Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H.
X8/X8 Crossfire config and capable of 4.6Ghz + OC. Gigabyte is updating their UEFI with Windows 8 fast boot, so it is pretty quick.
Cheap and Asus? No go. MSI low end solutions are crappy too.

I'd say my budget is $200. I see the GA-Z77X-UD3H is around $140. If I get a motherboard closer to $200, what extra benefits am I getting?
The Asus P8Z77-V(Pro), like Andy suggested, is 40 bucks more expensive, worth it you think? I want something good, but not something overpriced.
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You mainly get additional perks. In case of V-Pro it is mainly WiFi and different audio codec compared to UD3H. You most likely won't benefit from 6 phase doubled VRM on v-pro.

In the USA V-Pro costs about $220 where Gigabyte generally offers most perks per money. In case of UD5H-WB (non WB about $30 cheaper, but without WiFi) it's an headphone amp and dualband WiFi (single band on Asus). In case of UP4 it's thunderbolt and new IR3550 mosfets on the same 6 phase PWM as UD3H/UD5H. Or new UD4H which is the cheapest true 8 phase board all around. MSI M-Power offers WiFi, and "guranteed" 4.6 Ghz OC (6 phase analog VRM design).

Just choose what's the best for you, but generally UD3H and Biostar Z77 boards (XE4 and HiFi) are great boards for the money.
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You mainly get additional perks. In case of V-Pro it is mainly WiFi and different audio codec compared to UD3H. You most likely won't benefit from 6 phase doubled VRM on v-pro.
In the USA V-Pro costs about $220 where Gigabyte generally offers most perks per money. In case of UD5H-WB (non WB about $30 cheaper, but without WiFi) it's an headphone amp and dualband WiFi (single band on Asus). In case of UP4 it's thunderbolt and new IR3550 mosfets on the same 6 phase PWM as UD3H/UD5H. Or new UD4H which is the cheapest true 8 phase board all around. MSI M-Power offers WiFi, and "guranteed" 4.6 Ghz OC (6 phase analog VRM design).
Just choose what's the best for you, but generally UD3H and Biostar Z77 boards (XE4 and HiFi) are great boards for the money.

From what you tell me it seems like the GA-Z77X-UD3H is a good choice for me since I don't need that many feautures.
My Asus P6T has 2 x PCIe 2.0 x16. And from my understanding the UD3H has only 1. I read somewhere that running x8 might have some performance drop compared to running 2 x16/x16, maybe I should get a board with 2 X16/x16?
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From what you tell me it seems like the GA-Z77X-UD3H is a good choice for me since I don't need that many feautures.
My Asus P6T has 2 x PCIe 2.0 x16. And from my understanding the UD3H has only 1. I read somewhere that running x8 might have some performance drop compared to running 2 x16/x16, maybe I should get a board with 2 X16/x16?

Edit: Seems like the Asus P8Z77-V pro has 2 x16/x16 slots, might get this one.
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LGA1366 CPUs support 32 PCI-E lanes. LGA1155 CPUs only support 16 PCI-E lanes (Xeons support 20 lanes). The only way to to get "32" lanes is to use some sort of bridge line NF200 or PLX. It has performance hit on its own. The cheapest Z77 board with it is G1 Sniper 3 and some ECS board which cost ~$280.

Performance hit from X8/X8 is minimal http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/11.html.
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Edit: Seems like the Asus P8Z77-V pro has 2 x16/x16 slots, might get this one.
It doesn't.
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2 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 or dual x8)

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LGA1136 CPUs support 32 PCI-E lanes. LGA1155 CPUs only support 16 PCI-E lanes (Xeons support 20 lanes). The only way to to get "32" lanes is to use some sort of bridge line NF200 or PLX. It has performance hit on its own. The cheapest Z77 board with it is G1 Sniper 3 and some ECS board which cost ~$280.
Performance hit from X8/X8 is minimal http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI-Express_Scaling/11.html.
It doesn't.

Thanks again hehe, you know your stuff wink.gif. I think I'm settling on the GA-Z77X-UD3H. The bios looks really good and it supports everything I need. Also planning on buying 8gb dual channel memory @ 1866mhz. I will probably only need 1600mhz though. But yeah, sucks that my i7 920 decided to die on me, but it has been at 4.4ghz stable for 3.5 years, so I guess it isn't too bad.
Edited by Kidio007 - 11/22/12 at 4:14pm
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Just choose what's the best for you, but generally UD3H and Biostar Z77 boards (XE4 and HiFi) are great boards for the money.

I agree with this thumb.gif
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I think I'm settling on the GA-Z77X-UD3H.

Good thinkin' thumbsupsmiley.png
Now buy it & enjoy biggrin.gif
Edited by drBlahMan - 11/22/12 at 4:25pm
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