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I was using the same board & stock settings, just pulling the cpu & putting in the next at the same settings & running IBT for a minute. My best chip under extreme cooling was a 1.17 VID, next best was 1.23 VID, the one after was pretty close at 1.25 VID, & finally my worst overclocking chip that turned out to be a 1.28 VID.

Tested all of them on cascade before to determine the best ones, looking at the new realtemp now the VID reflected the same results.
    
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feniks: In my testing with a Kill-a-Watt meter, I found best idle power consumption by enabling the C3/C6 core sleep states. On my Asus board, using the C3/C6 package C states actually increased idle power consumption. Not sure why. It might be something on the board that causes that.
The RealTemp C States window is kind of handy when trying to eliminate useless background tasks on your computer. I can get my 3570K cores to spend about 99.5% of the time in C6. If you do this, the multiplier and voltage don't seem to make any significant difference to power consumption at idle because the CPU is mostly asleep. I would definitely be interested in seeing any power consumption data from your UPS. No hurries. It takes me forever to get any testing done these days too. smile.gif

I use automatic/default values for all C states on my MVE board. Strangely both enabled or disabled values give me worse SSD read/write speeds, best stick to auto.

Did a short test using my older APC UPS ( BackUPS BR1000G rated at 750VA).

at total idle (1.6GHz from 4.7GHz running offset +0.025), vcore dropping to 0.888V per CPU-z 1.62
11.2W reported in RTTI ~ 200W total pull on UPS (24'' LCD connected to it too), GTX 670 overclocked in adaptive mode (idling at 324MHz @ 0.9V)

at full IBT max mode load @ 4.7GHz, vcore reported at 1.208V
86W reported in RTTI ~ 313W total pull on UPS (24'' LCD connected to it too), GTX 670 overclocked in adaptive mode (idling at 324MHz @ 0.9V)

there seem to be a difference of 313-200=113W between the conditions as reported on UPS.
RTTI package watts seem to show a difference of 86-11.2=74.8W between both scenarios as per Real Temp TI.
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post #23 of 49
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What the AUTO setting does to C states can vary from one bios version to the next. I like seeing exactly what C states are being used. If you have nothing better to do, post a RealTemp C States screen shot when idle.

On my Asus board when overclocking, stand by mode only works if I disable C1E. Stand by resumes correctly whether C3 or C6 are enabled or not.

You usually get peak SSD benchmark numbers with as many C states disabled as possible.

FtW 420: Your VID findings are interesting. It makes sense that the low VID chips are the best overclockers. I assume that Intel quickly bins every CPU they make based on stability at a given voltage. They up the VID on the crappy CPUs and if that isn't enough to make them stable, they sell them as lower speed CPU models. The good ones go in a 3770K box and the not quite so good ones have hyper threading disabled and end up in a 3570K box. Intel has been doing this since day 1 to maximize yield and profits per CPU.
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What the AUTO setting does to C states can vary from one bios version to the next. I like seeing exactly what C states are being used. If you have nothing better to do, post a RealTemp C States screen shot when idle.
On my Asus board when overclocking, stand by mode only works if I disable C1E. Stand by resumes correctly whether C3 or C6 are enabled or not.
You usually get peak SSD benchmark numbers with as many C states disabled as possible.
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yeah I understand, however I tested this on this board+bios before and I get highest read/write numbers on SSD with C-states on auto, had some benchmarking screenies somewhere, maybe I could dig them up someday. anyways the difference was minimal either way, that's why I don't bother with them anymore and leave it on auto.
on evga z77 ftw however disabling c-stating was giving a significant boost to SSD speeds, YMMW.

as per your question, it might be that auto mode actually disabled all c-states for me as I see 0& in all C state numbers in Real Temp at my daily 4.7GHz.

I don't ever use sleep mode as I sit on daily overclocks with PLL Override enabled and this feature alone screws up sleep mode (or rather resume from it) on nearly all boards I know.
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post #25 of 49
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I was doing some high temperature testing of the new version of RealTemp. I didn't quite make it to the throttling point but with the CPU and Intel GPU fully loaded, I got awfully close.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6216/torturetest.png

Now that's what I call Prime stable. In the old days, a well overclocked Core 2 would lose Prime stability when the core temperature went up over 75C. This new Intel technology remains stable, even when pushed to the thermal limit.
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I was doing some high temperature testing of the new version of RealTemp. I didn't quite make it to the throttling point but with the CPU and Intel GPU fully loaded, I got awfully close.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6216/torturetest.png
Now that's what I call Prime stable. In the old days, a well overclocked Core 2 would lose Prime stability when the core temperature went up over 75C. This new Intel technology remains stable, even when pushed to the thermal limit.

delid that i5 man!
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yup, new intel chips (both 2nd & 3rd gen) run amazingly stable even at near thermal limits, never had a problem with stability even when briefly touching thermal limits actually (eve when brief throttling occurred once or twice).

as above, however, I'd definitely delid that i5 and enjoy 20-30C lower temps under load biggrin.gif - that would give you a nice boost to max achievable clocks (depending on your chip's batch and vcore demand in particular).
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unclewebb, I have been using RealTemp 3.70 (a very useful program - thank you) with the GPU temp selected in the settings so I can check those as well, but in the newer version the GPU check place is grayed out so I can't select it. Is there some setting I need to change to get that to work? Or is it not implamented yet?

Edit - OK, figured it out - I needed to select the gpu type (Nvidia in my case) for it to be activated. Still good letting you know I like the upgraded version - Thanks!
Edited by PCWargamer - 11/27/12 at 9:00pm
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Unclewebb, do you currently use Fixed Voltage now?
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