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It'll probably rape single high end gpu's for a year or 2

No way, as I said before, PC always has, and always will lead the way in performance. A High end PC GPU will be about 20x faster than a console GPU,

The only reason a "Console" port doesn't run properly on PC, is just that, it's a port, and usually they are ported very poorly.
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You have entirely missed the point of the Apple analogy. Apple makes set hardware and software and that's the reason that applications etc run perfectly out of the box on the iPhone 4 as they do on the iphone 4s. So you are incorrect. A console that follows the same philosophy is going to be upgradable and hence carry gaming technology forward rather than bog it down with ageing hardware.
What I am saying is definitely feasible and possible. Do I think it will happen - No. Because the idea is to keep costs down and the console end users aren't that bothered with higher fps as they are in the PC space. I am just saying that I for one would be more inclined to purchase an upgradable console as I am an enthusiast ad as such crave for every last ounce of performance.

Actually, I think you just killed your own point about that upgrades being useful with that Apple analogy in that case. Yes, the 4s may be faster, but none of the 3rd party apps look any different between the 4 and the 4s. Even Apples software just runs smoother but with no extra features.

If the same thing happened with consoles it would be completely pointless.
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No way, as I said before, PC always has, and always will lead the way in performance. A High end PC GPU will be about 20x faster than a console GPU,
The only reason a "Console" port doesn't run properly on PC, is just that, it's a port, and usually they are ported very poorly.

As has been stated already, consoles ARE built on high-end GPUs at the time of development. When consoles are released they are usually running the last generation's high-end GPUs which makes them about 20% slower than a PC.

At this point in time their graphics are far superior due to optimization and it is only when they are outclassed by 2 or 3 times that the PC graphics begin to take over. It is the unfortunate way of the gaming world these days.
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IDK, it wont be super high end, and as long as it costs 300$ I will buy it just for games like forza and such.

Maybe a max comparable speed of a gtx 660ti, and I think that is pushing it.

I think they know they cannot sell these consoles with pc beating specs, and prices in the 500$ or more range.
 
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As has been stated already, consoles ARE built on high-end GPUs at the time of development.

PS4 rumored to use an A10, and the xbox a HD 7xxx, which when released, will be two generations old rolleyes.gif
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IDK, it wont be super high end, and as long as it costs 300$ I will buy it just for games like forza and such.
Maybe a max comparable speed of a gtx 660ti, and I think that is pushing it.
I think they know they cannot sell these consoles with pc beating specs, and prices in the 500$ or more range.

They've been talking $600-800 out of the gate for years now. All I can say is

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Sad thing is, they're so damn good at marketing them, they'll still sell. eh-smiley.gif
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its just going to hurt if i see a 600$ console come out in a year and a half to 2 years that is going to make my rig look weak. I have over 4k$ up in this thing. I put a lot of extra things that only helped in little ways. I mean i just keep adding to this thing. I just hope it out performs my friends console when it hits the market. Out of 4 of my gaming buddies only 1 thinks consoles are so much better. He told me that when the new consoles come out they will have more horespower(better graphics) than my computer will by then. If i am right he said he will give the pc gaming world a shot.
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Oh god, the new consoles wont even come CLOSE to matching your PC! You've got TWO 680's for goodness sake! thumb.gif
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False... don't regurgitate incorrect information as if it's true....rolleyes.gif

You say I lie, and then you provide no proof to back up your claim?

Oh the irony. rolleyes.gif



The graphics race is over on consoles. Now it's about user experience over all else. You can thank the advancement of smartphones and other similar devices for that one.
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its just going to hurt if i see a 600$ console come out in a year and a half to 2 years that is going to make my rig look weak. I have over 4k$ up in this thing. I put a lot of extra things that only helped in little ways. I mean i just keep adding to this thing. I just hope it out performs my friends console when it hits the market. Out of 4 of my gaming buddies only 1 thinks consoles are so much better. He told me that when the new consoles come out they will have more horespower(better graphics) than my computer will by then. If i am right he said he will give the pc gaming world a shot.

I think you'll find that your PC will easily beat the consoles on raw power. On actual graphics due to optimization... That's another thing all together,
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The consoles will be faster because they dont run an ineffecient OS known as windows. Now don't get that confused with the concept of "more powerful". The reason PCs do better is because the hardware is lightyears ahead . Hell all the new consoles are supposed to be running APUs ... and we all know how the APUs compare in performance to the latest top tier PC hardware. So when the consoles are 6 years behind they will be in the same boat compared to PCs as they are today. The difference is, though, that they shouldn't be slowed down overtime by useless software running and the user being bad.

If games change their current rate of progression we might have a different story though.
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