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Basically I would say stick is .75mm wire... Anything over 18 AWG is massive overkill and may not fit properly (or atleast as well)... As for the fans, I think .25 coming from the fans is a good idea, but possibly use .5 for the main wire channel (where all the tabs hook up to$ just to be safe smile.gif

@OPs previous post

I have no idea what to think about that heat gun (my knowledge on heat guns is very limited), but tht crimping tool is amazing... If you plan on getting the other tool kit, then I would personally hold off on the MDPC crimped until you find out how good the one in the kit is smile.gif
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It say AWG 18 is minimum recommended by the ATX spec, so 0.75 sq mm is a bit thinner. Thats why i though i otta use the 1 sq mm wire.
Ya, i was thinking also so, 0.5 sq mm for the main fan wire, which brings current to all the fans.
Then 0.25 sq mm wire for each individual fan.
That was another way i was thinking about.

You said so:
but tht crimping tool is amazing... If you plan on getting the other tool kit, then I would personally hold off on the MDPC crimped until you find out how good the one in the kit is.

1)Which crimping tool are you reffering to ?
The one from the frozen cpu.com or the mdpc tool ?

The thing is i don't know if the MDPC crimping tool can also cut the wire.
I have seen a you tube presentation video of the set i linked from the frozen cpu .com.
That yellow tool can also cut the wire, and cut in such a way that the internal wire gets exposed, for a couple of milimeters, then comes the insulation.

2)The question is, is that really needed for crimping, because i saw a crimp bites in the insulation of the wire, thus making in this way the contact. For that one would only need to just simply cut the wire.

One question though:
3)What kind of material is the metallic wire inside the insulation ? Is that copper wire or some other metallic wire ?

What i also dont't know, as i havent seen until now, how does one make from one wire, two wires ? (I am reffering here to a Y-Type splitter) Or from one wire , 4 wires ?
If you have a link or a video or something that you know of please post.
I imagine 2 wires are attached physicall to the main wire, and just somehow ''glued'' togther.

That's the only thing that i'm missing right now. Otherwise, i think i got everything else.
Edited by Bytales - 12/10/12 at 1:32am
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Or i shouldn't be thinking to an Y-type splitting at all (that being a parallell type of splyting)
I could't be easily just make a non Y-type splitting, and by that i am reffering to an serial type of splitting, which means, cable, connector, cable connector, cable, connector.

That would provide the same results, wouldn't it ?
post #54 of 254
Thread Starter 
Here is some good news:
EK working on waterblock for the 7990.

I shure hope they make one for the HIS Card as well.
post #55 of 254
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I got some new picture2.
Today just came in the Drive Bays. Here there are in order of installement, from top to bottom:


1)ToughArmor MB994IPO-3SB 2x2.5” SAS/SATA HDD + 1x Slim ODD Rack
2)ToughArmor MB996SP-6SB 6x2.5" SATA HDD Hot Swap Mobile Rack
3)DuoSwap MB971SP-B 2.5"/3.5" SATA Hot Swap Drive Caddy
and two times the:
4)RaidSonic Icy Box IB-545SSK

Here are pictures:



Untill now the "bill of materials" is 1937 Eur and i dont even have a working PC frown.gif
Edited by Bytales - 12/16/12 at 8:14am
post #56 of 254
lol... looking very nice bytales smile.gif... and ik what you mean... i have about 3k worth of parts sitting on my desk and still dont have a PSU, case, or radiators rolleyes.gif
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Hello Bytales, I love the progress you're making on Project-Fill-It-Up. This is going to be one the nicest STH10s that I have seen. Good job!


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Looking forward to it.
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ASUS Maximus V Extreme Waterblock from EKWB is also available.
It seems this is the company that will make my watercooling Build possible.
The motherboard waterblock, there are no other manufacturers, and the GPU waterblock also.

I am a bit reluctand however buying the block from them, allthough when there is no other possibility, i must buy from them, because i've read somewhere that the blocks they are making are getting stains over time, especially because the copper is with nickel electroplated.

There was an extensive discussion here somewhere, i got look into it more in depth, but one has to wonder ? Why not make pure copper on the inside ? Or maybe on the inside where the liquid flows, is pure copper and its plated on the outside.

Regardless, i hope i wont have problems with their blocks.
I do read on that extensive topic that copper doesnt stain, and the nickel somehow stains, but as i sayd i got to look more into it.
There are a good 150 pages here, i know i have a lot to read:
http://www.overclock.net/t/915966/please-read-before-purchasing-ek-nickel-plated-blocks-update-revised-plating-info
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OK, so i have researched in the last days with what motherboard should i go.

Ideally i would need the following
PCI Expres 3.0 8x Areca Raid Card
PCI Express 3.0 16x 1st dual GPU card
PCI Express 3.0 16x 2nd dual GPU card
PCI Express 2.0 1x Asus Xonar Phoebus
PCI Express 2.0 1x USB card with internal header and external ports
PCI Express 2.0 1x USB card with internal header and external ports

And mSata on the board, because i have an msata SSD i#d like to use, 256 gb micron, i bought for the laptop, the laptop that i no longer have now.

For the thing to work, the GPU slots need to be on the lower end of the board, so that only the first gpu will eat one additional slot, and not the second.

The one that fits the bill is ASUS Maximus V Formula

http://www.xbitlabs.com/picture/?src=/images/mainboards/asus-maximus-v-formula/board1_big.jpg

I have the following slot configuration from top to bottom
PCI express 2.0 4x --> Xonar Phoebus sound card on 1x interface
PCI Express 3.0 16x, will work on 8x Mode, exactly as i need for the areca raid card. One slot
PCI Express 2.0 1x, - USB Hub, one slot
PCI Express 2.0 1x - USB Hub, one slot
PCI Express 3.0 16x, Working at 4x, First Dual GPU card
PCI Express 3.0 16x, Working at 4x, Second Dual GPU card

Since the Red PCI express will be populated, they will run at 8x 4x 4x.
The problem is now wheter or not 4x is enough for a dual GPU monster the likes of 7990 or 8990.
A pci 3.0 4x is the same as 2.0 8x and the same as a 1.0 16x

This article here:
Says that pci express 3.0 4x is just enough for a card to work without performance drop.

By looking in the same article at benches, ones sees no performance drop or minimal performance drop going from 8x to 4x on 3.0 pci express.

The question is now if that is also enough for a dual slot monster.

I could always go on x79 xtreme 11, which has 16x 8x 8x 8x 8x 8x 8x. And not worry about it. But thats just a waste of bandwith when what i really need is 1x 2.0/8x 3.0/1x 2.0/1x 2.0/16x 3.0 and 16x 3
Edited by Bytales - 12/20/12 at 2:12am
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