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The Catleap is the most popular simply because of its reputation.

Back in the day it was the only model (and only the 2B Catleap) that could overclock over 100Hz.

None of them can overclock past 100Hz these days and since they all use the same panel it just comes down to personal preference if I'm honest.

Some of them have a somewhat limited On Screen Display if you really want to pay the extra, but other than that they just have a different aesthetic appearance and a different stand.

The Shimian has always been the cheapest, followed by the Catleap and the Crossover being the most expensive.

I would advise that you buy which ever one you like the look of the most, since that's the only real difference. Most people say not to buy the tempered glass version because it can have dust stuck behind it, which cannot be removed and also because you cannot massage the stuck/dead pixels.

The Crossover LED-P has the best quality stand, with the Catleap, Shimian and Crossover Blade all having very flimsy and wobbly stands.

In my opinion the Crossover LED-P is the best one, however they're also the most expensive. So it depends how much you want to pay.

Also, don't bother wasting your money with the HDMI versions unless you want to play your Xbox/PS3 on it, the reason for this is because only Dual Link DVI-D can go up to 1440p.
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I can get the Catleap Q270 for £224.98 and the Crossover 27Q for £257.98, I think I'll go with the Crossover if it has better build quality for only £30 more. Thank you biggrin.gif
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post #13 of 32
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Would you recommend the Catleap Q270 or are there better ones in your opinion? smile.gif I see the Q270 is the most popular.

The CrossOver 27Q LED is equally as good with better build and metal construction.
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One more thing, do they all have the same response time? If not which has the best?
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I can get the Catleap Q270 for £224.98 and the Crossover 27Q for £257.98, I think I'll go with the Crossover if it has better build quality for only £30 more. Thank you biggrin.gif

I think I paid £253 for my Crossover, the choice was easy for me because at that time they had put the Catleap up to £245 so it was a no brainer.

I don't regret it at all though, I think it's a consensus that the Crossover is the best choice out of the selection.
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One more thing, do they all have the same response time? If not which has the best?

They all have the same response time. I've never had a problem with ghosting on my 27Q, there are apparently soem response time issues via HDMI though. Another reason not to waste money on the multi-input versions. smile.gif
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post #16 of 32
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Yes, it is the same panel.
The difference is their quality rating.
Upon entering quality control the panels go through a number of inspection points. Some being color accuracy, tint, number of dead pixels and a whole host of other critical factors that define a quality panel.
If they pass this test, the panels are sold to Dell, Apple, and a whole host of other A+ companies.
Again, these are the exact same panels. They just have a different quality rating.
Yes, it is the panel. smile.gif They're all identical LG panels, it's their quality rating that is different................

I'm sorry, but you are mistaken on this point.
The Catleap Q270, and most of the currently widely available Korean IPS monitors, do not, I repeat, do not use the same panel as Dell's U2711 monitor.

The U2711 is a completely different panel than this current crop.
The U2711 uses a CCFL backlit, wide-gamut, 10bit (8-bit+FRC) panel. This means that it can show more different colours, it can show deeper blues, brighter greens and more radiant reds and is more uniform than any of the current ~$300-400 27" IPS.
Current Korean monitors, for the vast majority, (we're talking 99%+) are edgelit LEDs, standard sRGB gamut, 8 bit (8bit without FRC) panels.

They are not the same. It is not just a grading difference.

If you're thinking about the U2713hm, then you're closer; they use similar panels, but again, they aren't the same panels. The U2713hm also uses an edgelit, LED backlight, standard sRGB gamut and 8 bit panel, but it's a different model panel - "rejected" U2713hm panels do not go into a pool where these Korean monitors draw their panels.

TLDR:

The Catleap Q270 is an sRGB, 8bit, LED edgelit monitor.
The U2711 is a widegamut, aRGB+, 10bit, CCFL backlit monitor.
post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by AndyM95 View Post

My friend has one and I just really liked the colors and the depth, I just like it smile.gif

Was your friend running his panel on an sRGB emulation? Or was he running it in its native colour space?

If he was running it in sRGB emulation (the "correct" way) then any of the korean monitors here will do. If he was running it in its native colour space, then there really isn't a monitor available that can do it (cheaply). Be that as it may, all his colours will be technically wrong (ie, they will appear not as intended by the person who created the graphics), even though you can see the more brilliant colours. The only proper way to make use of the U2711's extended colour gamut is to use colour managed software, wide-gamut cameras, wide-gamut content, wide-gamut printers, and calibration software for all of the above.
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Originally Posted by kevinsbane View Post

I'm sorry, but you are mistaken on this point.
The Catleap Q270, and most of the currently widely available Korean IPS monitors, do not, I repeat, do not use the same panel as Dell's U2711 monitor.
The U2711 is a completely different panel than this current crop.
The U2711 uses a CCFL backlit, wide-gamut, 10bit (8-bit+FRC) panel. This means that it can show more different colours, it can show deeper blues, brighter greens and more radiant reds and is more uniform than any of the current ~$300-400 27" IPS.
Current Korean monitors, for the vast majority, (we're talking 99%+) are edgelit LEDs, standard sRGB gamut, 8 bit (8bit without FRC) panels.
They are not the same. It is not just a grading difference.
If you're thinking about the U2713hm, then you're closer; they use similar panels, but again, they aren't the same panels. The U2713hm also uses an edgelit, LED backlight, standard sRGB gamut and 8 bit panel, but it's a different model panel - "rejected" U2713hm panels do not go into a pool where these Korean monitors draw their panels.
TLDR:
The Catleap Q270 is an sRGB, 8bit, LED edgelit monitor.
The U2711 is a widegamut, aRGB+, 10bit, CCFL backlit monitor.

Thank you. Too many misinformed users running around with the notion that the cheapo Korean monitors use the same panels as the U2711.
 
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From my research and understanding (correct me if I am wrong):

The Dell U2711 are using a variation that are 10bit and have AG coating
The Dell U2713hm are using a new LG panel utilizing AH-IPS with semi-glossy coating

Both of these are very different than what the Korean Ebay ones are using.
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what about other brands like Qnix? are inferior to Crossover Yamakasi and Achievia?

I have one and I love it !!! biggrin.gif

Worth it! biggrin.gif
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