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Originally Posted by HeadlessKnight View Post

GTX 580 is faster on stock and when overclocked .. 7870 is on the other hand matches GTX 580.

Its faster on stock yes, its not when overclocked though.

It depends, i have beaten GTX580's and lost to GTX580's in several benchmarks.

Here you see i won 1 and lost one to 580's
Note that both have better faster CPU's then i dit at the time, if the 3960 was a 2550K like me he was prolly under me in the list to.


Here results of 580's in 3Dmark.
Highest result is P11264


Not even close to my P13012 with 785'0's



Only very good (golden) 580's beat a 7850 max OC vs max OC.

In general they are on par with the exception of 580's that can clock really good..
Not all 580's clock like crazy though but almost every 7850 does.

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Originally Posted by raghu78 View Post

the HD 7850 can be anywhere between 5 - 15% slower than HD 7870 at the same clocks. on average 10% slower. it would definitely require a HD 7850 at 1.15 Ghz - 1.2 Ghz to consistently match HD 7870 across all cases.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/38809-powercolor-pcs-hd7850/?page=3
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_7850_PCS_Plus/6.html

I have tryed myself with both cards at 1000mhz
I noticed a difference of 7% between the 7850 and 7870.
7870's can be overclocked higher then most 7850's though so max OC vs max OC the 7870 beats the 7850 by about 10 to 20% (depends on the overclocks)
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Originally Posted by Farih View Post

Its faster on stock yes, its not when overclocked though.
It depends, i have beaten GTX580's and lost to GTX580's in several benchmarks.
Only very good (golden) 580's beat a 7850 max OC vs max OC.
In general they are on par with the exception of 580's that can clock really good..
Not all 580's clock like crazy though but almost every 7850 does.
I have tryed myself with both cards at 1000mhz
I noticed a difference of 7% between the 7850 and 7870.
7870 can be overclocked higher then most 7850's though so max OC vs max OC the 7870 beats the 7850 by about 10 to 20% (depends on the overclocks)

According to the Hexus benchmark post Raghu78 posted 7850 is about 5-15% slower than a 7870 at same clocks.
I don't know If you are only talking about 3DMark only because that is not a good measure of a cards performance.
As the newer cards tend to score higher even if they are equal in performance in real world.

Generally GTX 580 OC > HD 7850 OC.
GTX 580 OC = HD7870 OC

Also from what I've seen (don't exactly remember which site but probably before driver updates)
A good clocking GTX 570 (~950) can easily keep up with a (~1200 MHz) HD7850..
So compared to a GTX 580 there is no contest.

Also you are comparing SLI vs CF? Why compare SLI vs CF with older generations of cards?
Everybody knows 7000 series CF scales much better than SLI with either GTX 500 or GTX 600 series.
Single Vs Single GTX 580 is faster.
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Originally Posted by HeadlessKnight View Post

According to the Hexus benchmark post Raghu78 posted 7850 is about 5-15% slower than a 7870 at same clocks.
I don't know If you are only talking about 3DMark only because that is not a good measure of a cards performance.
As the newer cards tend to score higher even if they are equal in performance in real gaming.
Generally GTX 580 OC > HD 7850 OC.
GTX 580 OC = HD7870 OC
Also from what I've seen (don't exactly remember which site but probably before driver updates)
A good clocking GTX 570 (~950) can easily keep up with a (~1200 MHz) HD7850..
So compared to a GTX 580 there is no contest.


I talk from experience wink.gif

I have my own shop, am a hardware reseller and special systems builder.

I like to test loads of hardware myself so i can advise my custumors better.


Yes i have had Nvidia cards aswell.

Also dont forget that even though its just a benchmark, its a benchmark thats always been in favor of Nvidia, the 7850's still beating them there make's it even more remarkable.

Because i wouldnt run any card on max clocks myself i would go with a 580 instead of a 7850 to.
I am not in deny saying a GTX580 on stock isnt better then a 7850 because it is.
But max OC vs max OC the 580 is NOT faster then a 7850, only sometime's where sometime's a 7850 beats it to like i shown in post above.

Like i said before, they are on par unless you got a very good clocking 580.
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I don't know If you are only talking about 3DMark only because that is not a good measure of a cards performance. As the newer cards tend to score higher even if they are equal in performance in real world.
Generally GTX 580 OC > HD 7850 OC.
GTX 580 OC = HD7870 OC
Also from what I've seen (don't exactly remember which site but probably before driver updates)
A good clocking GTX 570 (~950) can easily keep up with a (~1200 MHz) HD7850..
So compared to a GTX 580 there is no contest. Single Vs Single GTX 580 is faster.

I agree. the GTX 580 has a phenomenal amount of oc headroom and performance scaling. GTX 580 OC (950 Mhz) = HD 7870 (1.25 Ghz).
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I'm picking the GTX 580 over ANY HD 7870/50 and I just sold my GTX 580, had it for over a year, I also know it well.
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This discussion makes me wish I had a 2nd GTX580 already so I could directly compare to these results.
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nothing like having a matching pair, not just two in SLi but an exact matching pair.
(I know that you can individually set them to matching specs..)

I like it when Afterburner controls them as one...
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Where is the latest deal on the GTX460 2Win? I havent seen one in a while, guess I was snoozing.



Amazon has one for 170.


http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Mini-HDMI-Graphics-02G-P3-1387-KR/dp/B004SU8AUU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1353868976&sr=8-1&keywords=GTX460+2Win
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Nice looking card. Too bad it has a yellow stripe down the middle.
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