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Without bringing Siverlight into the picture (but I sure would like to hear what others think about the job Silverlight is doing or should be doing) I have found that optimizing Netflix viewing (optimizing to me means first,no stuttering,full screen HD when applicable and very important,bring cpu core utilization down).I have found the simple answer is,more cores.Dual cores in the 1.8GHz range will work but you see pretty constant 50% utilization.If you run even the earliest "4 core" (like the Q6600 for me) I can get cpu utilization down to 20% and this makes me happy.The cpu utilization aspect is why I posted in the "general cpu" sub forum.Back to Silverlight,I would be hard pressed to say that I notice and effect of Silverlight bringing the gpu into the picture.For me and my experiments it is all about cpu cores.Comments by people more in tune to the techniques used by Netflix would be doing a lot of people a great service as the "how to optimize Netflix on an Atom or dual core cpu" is a issue that is getting a lot of attention on the net.I myself would like to run less of a cpu but the Q6600 route is a pretty cheap and easy way to get the job done.I now ask about the "elegant" way to get the job done, again the "job" is keeping cpu utilization down.Many dual core people report 80-90% cpu utilization.This certainly is not optimal.
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Netflix bitrate vary.... dual-core AMD at 1.8GHz will not run every single streaming video. (i.e. Legend of the Seeker is high bitrate).


You can see the bitrate info in the hidden menus: http://imnotbruce.blogspot.com/2010/11/netflix-key-commands.html
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have you tried waterfox it seems to give me less cpu usage then normal firefox 3-4% on my 2600k if you have a 64bit cpu and os.
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Netflix bitrate vary.... dual-core AMD at 1.8GHz will not run every single streaming video. (i.e. Legend of the Seeker is high bitrate).
You can see the bitrate info in the hidden menus: http://imnotbruce.blogspot.com/2010/11/netflix-key-commands.html

off topic i loved that show sad it only made it 2 seasons kinda like firefly only making it 1 seems good shows got cut.
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Oh yes,as stated the dual cores (and single cores) will run Netflix.The issue is a pegged cpu usage value.The goal is to get the % usage down with a dual core (or single).My 1.8 socket 775 works fine,but the usage (as reported) is 50%,rather high for my tastes.If I use a i7-930 usage is under 5% but this is a lot of cpu simply to watch streaming video.It would be nice if a process existed to offload some of the work to the gpu but this does not seem to be in the cards.

EDIT: I do see Duckie wrote "will not run" which is pretty much my experience,but only with certain titles.
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Oh yes,as stated the dual cores (and single cores) will run Netflix.The issue is a pegged cpu usage value.The goal is to get the % usage down with a dual core (or single).My 1.8 socket 775 works fine,but the usage (as reported) is 50%,rather high for my tastes.If I use a i7-930 usage is under 5% but this is a lot of cpu simply to watch streaming video.It would be nice if a process existed to offload some of the work to the gpu but this does not seem to be in the cards.
EDIT: I do see Duckie wrote "will not run" which is pretty much my experience,but only with certain titles.

Might be worth investing into a newer gpu nothing priced high a used amd 5xxx or a NV 4xx to see if it will take load off the cpu by turning on hardware accel in firefox or ie or chrome whatever you use. I tested it with my card real fast and saw about 4-5% gpu usage with hardware accell turned on and 3% cpu usage. Wierd thing when i turned it off my cpu usage went up to 10% with spikes on the gpu up to 25% and down to 0 just a suggestion but i got a wd live streaming tv and i have stoped using my server and 360 to watch any movies sence it has built in netflix support and can play every file under the sun.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136997&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA
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I am going to start referring to my rig as my Netflix optimized computer.
 
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I am going to start referring to my rig as my Netflix optimized computer.

lol a 3930k for netflix.
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I have read articles that seemed to imply that Silverlight was supposed to place some of the load on the gpu.Myself,I have never noticed any difference in cpu utilization if I ran onboard graphics or a discrete gpu.Does anyone know what part the gpu plays in a Netflixs streaming video.Internet reasearch does give me the impression that others are trying to figure this out.One more thing I do not quite get,how does a little 5x5 Roku box handle the whole deal so well?
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Might be worth investing into a newer gpu nothing priced high a used amd 5xxx or a NV 4xx to see if it will take load off the cpu by turning on hardware accel in firefox or ie or chrome whatever you use. I tested it with my card real fast and saw about 4-5% gpu usage with hardware accell turned on and 3% cpu usage. Wierd thing when i turned it off my cpu usage went up to 10% with spikes on the gpu up to 25% and down to 0 just a suggestion but i got a wd live streaming tv and i have stoped using my server and 360 to watch any movies sence it has built in netflix support and can play every file under the sun.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136997&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA

A better GPU won't help. SilverLight is really really behind the curve in video hardware acceleration.
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It seems much was promised from SilverLight 5 in the area of gpu acceleration.For some reason they(meaning Microsoft) missed the mark.
Silverlight 5 – The final release became available for download on December 9, 2011. New features include: GPU accelerated video decoding, 3D graphics, playback speed controls, remote control and 64-bit support

For now optimization of NetFlix viewing is going to be based on your cpu cores.A case can be made that the product is fully functional,it simply demands major cpu usage.I have a p4 that will do a darn good job at running many Netflix titles.
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