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I feel like you're exaggerating.
There is a difference, but it's nothing like what you're saying.

Try 25-man raid. 10 fps maximum.
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8350 performs better that PH2's I thought?

I don't see how that's possible,given the single-thread performance is considerably worse.
 
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post #103 of 258
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I've had
2 athlon x2
1 athlon x4
PH2 x4 960
pH2 x6 1090t
FX 8150
why would it suck? would it be "unplayable" because it got 10fps less and go down to 50fps? .... you've proved my point you over exaggerate everything about AMD... how many AMD and Intel chips have you owned?
38 ..that I've made submissions with biggrin.gif
proof.gif http://www.hwbot.org/user/schmuckley/#Hardware_Library
Some didn't make it..i5 650..i3 540..
I'm of the opinion that AMD's new architecture really sux.I just can't feel otherwise;no matter how hard I try.Meanwhile..I get 80 GFLOPS with a Thuban biggrin.gif ..does SuperPi 1m in 17 1/2 seconds @ 4-ish Ghz
Edited by Schmuckley - 11/25/12 at 4:03pm
 
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post #104 of 258
Maybe we should define gaming.
I see this strange question all over.
Of course you can play games with it ,even an Athlon 2 tricore can.
Strangely enough many online players ,addicted to CS for example ,play the game over and over with old configurations .I think they are gamers even if they use old rigs.
The question is ,are you skilled enough to deserve a FX 8350 ?! smile.gif

Gaming is in the wrist not in the rig cost or power.
Yes, it is worth it ,you can "own" , if you know how.
   
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post #105 of 258
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38 ..that I've made submissions with biggrin.gif
proof.gif http://www.hwbot.org/user/schmuckley/#Hardware_Library
Some didn't make it..i5 650..i3 540..
I'm of the opinion that AMD's new architecture really sux.I just can't feel otherwise;no matter how hard I try.Meanwhile..I get 80 GFLOPS with a Thuban biggrin.gif ..does SuperPi 1m in 17 1/2 seconds @ 4-ish Ghz

If only LinX GFLOPS and SuperPi times actually meant anything.
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I don't see how that's possible,given the single-thread performance is considerably worse.

Ummmm...

Notice how the 8350 beat Thuban and Deneb alike in every single game, and also that Thuban and Deneb were last 2 spaces in almost every game?

Point being, if an 8350 doesn't cut it for you, Thuban and Deneb definitely will not.
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If only LinX GFLOPS and SuperPi times actually meant anything.
Ummmm...
Notice how the 8350 beat Thuban and Deneb alike in every single game, and also that Thuban and Deneb were last 2 spaces in almost every game?
Point being, if an 8350 doesn't cut it for you, Thuban and Deneb definitely will not.

Well, Linx is built with Intel fortran compiler, thats a red herring.

SuperPi ? really ? who gives a crap about a nasty old x87 instruction set, its dead, the world moved on, please wipe your chin and join us in 2012, 1995 is calling, they want those crappy FPU's back.
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Try 25-man raid. 10 fps maximum.

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I feel like you're exaggerating.
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..........The most expensive AMD FX chip can't "trade blows" with the i5-3570k so of course it doesn't deserve credit as an equal to the market for "GAMING". I keep seeing people say well "The next AMD chip will be better" when The current INTEL Chip is better for gaming. All i see is a bunch of strawman arguments to justify the AMD chip for gaming. Give me something besides opinion.
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Nobody is saying the AMD isn't amazing for gaming. They are saying which out performs in games the 8350 vs i5-3570k. You are 100% correct about this statement "for people to say it isn't is just pure ignorance and lack of research" but its just as fitting for those trying to justify that the 8350 out performs vs the 3570k in games.

You just got served with proof that the 8350 can outperform the i5 in 5 different games, and youre going to completely discount and not acknowledge it? Why? You asked the question, MALO answered and you're overlooking that to cry about symatics? Your hardware insecurities are making you so inconsistent with your arguments that I dont know what you're arguing about anymore.
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like I said... most new games it doesnt matter, most games are GPU based... only a few newr gamers run better on intel becasue of console ports
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..... why would you settle for "playable performance" when a system like an i3 that's way more cheaper will outperform it in some ares? doesn't really rhyme with the price:performance that amd have been preaching for years don't get me wrong here. I think amd gpu's are great as well as the apu's and price:performance they're really great. AMD cpu's is a much tougher pill to swallow. I'll never recommend it on a gaming build

GOD, you're one tough cookie to follow... You need to be more consistent with your trolling. So an i3 is better because it outperforms in some games and cost $40 less? So using your logic, an 8350 is better than a 3770K because it plays some games just as good and cost much less. Correct?

Ignorance is being un-informed and not knowing the facts. Stupidity is being informed and knowing the facts but choosing to ignore them.
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I don't see how that's possible,given the single-thread performance is considerably worse.

Common Schmuckley, you're so much better than this.....

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=697

83XX is much better in damn near every way compared to its Phenom II cousins.
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That medal of honor warfighter bench showing the stock 8350 besting the OVERCLOCKED 3960x is shocking. eek.gif
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actually if you read my first few posts, I asked for nearly 2 pages for proof of the stupidly biased statements that were being thrown around, nobody showed any and then Malo snuck in some ninja edits. Of course I overlooked most of the nonsense when it was filled with unreasonable deniability and over justification apropos to the ability of the 8350 vs the 3570k. But you'd have to have followed the thread to have known that those Screen shots weren't added until the thread continued so yes it was easy to overlook when they weren't there when he first posted that reply. I truly can't see mature logical people reasonably being this unrational about things and arguing over the most stupid points just to prove their loyalty to a product that barely makes the mark.... rolleyes.gif I'll be back on the AMD wagon when it actually presents a winning gaming CPU, not just winning on a small handful of games but the majority.

I'm not overlooking the benchmarks, infact I'm reasoning on them now and seeing if they add up to make the 8350 worth the difference for a gaming build. As it stands now I'm not sure either way. People need to unplug if they can't stop from being so overly aggresive over such silly things. If I'm wrong about something I'd love to learn from it, which is why I asked repeatedly for proof, links, benchmarks, not ninja them in to make others look stupid and then call them out for not seeing them. Thats simply childish and immature. I thought this was supposed to be a professional place to discuss things not resorting to MEME's and passive aggressive stupidity. I'm more then willing to discuss things on a mature level and learn new things but I'm not willing to deal with immature unreasonable individuals who can't debate in a mature and respectful fashion.
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