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Not if AMD gets delisted by the New York Stock Exchange first. Their stock has lost 2/3rds of its value in the last 12 months, and was dangerously close at one point to falling below the $1/share minimum required to maintain their standing.

Source: http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:AMD
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well from all "GAMING" benchmarks I've not seen it out perform the 3570k. Though in other things that isn't gaming it does but that isn't what you asked.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-9.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5

I've been searching ever since AMD released the 8350 and I can't find a single review with gaming benchmarks that put it at beating the 3570k... The reason I've been looking so hard is because I am / was an AMD fan and want it to give INTEL competition but it just isn't. If I missed something then please correct me but I can't find it.

I've seen it outperform the ivy.. some won't believe this or (this reviewer) but it does look legit.
It is interesting...

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I've seen it outperform the ivy.. some won't believe this or (this reviewer) but it does look legit.
It is interesting...


That shill was so successful.
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Originally Posted by Bruennis View Post

I would be VERY surprised.

It's suspected that we'll see next generation AMD cards along with Nvidia cards in Q4 of this year: http://videocardz.com/39202/nvidia-geforce-700-and-amd-radeon-hd-8000-series-postponed-to-q4-2013

Oh I meant the 8 core CPU's and not the cards. But that's good to know as well. And Deep can you elaborate how it'll bottleneck the SLI 680?
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Oh I meant the 8 core CPU's and not the cards. But that's good to know as well. And Deep can you elaborate how it'll bottleneck the SLI 680?

Because 95% of the actual reviews on the web show AMD chips holding back two fast cards.

Examples like this: http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-core-i7-3770k--4.8ghz--multi-gpu-gaming-performance/17494-1.html

Or this: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-core-i7-3770k-gaming-bottleneck,3407.html

It shouldn't be hard to find more results if you aren't convinced by those two.
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I've seen it outperform the ivy.. some won't believe this or (this reviewer) but it does look legit.
It is interesting...

Great....THAT video.
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post #167 of 258
I'll just say this: for $180, I'm happy with my 8350. My games stay at 60FPS+, and my video rendering is blazing fast. I'm needing to get RAID0 HDD to keep up. In my eyes, 60FPS is all I need, since my monitor will only show 60FPS. If you have a higher monitor, and want more frames, get the 3770k. If you need to edit/render, OC a 8350.

Both are good picks, but the extra money for the 3770k isn't what I want. And since I'm always multitasking, the extra cores help me out.
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@Ace

The i7 will surely have an outstanding performance and it will ALWAYS top that chart for that matter. but for the i5-3570k, it looks like a different story.
To add to that, the price range of these processors are different and IS IN FAVOR OF THE FX 8350.

FX 8350 is priced at $199 right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

while i5-3570k is at $229
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

That's already a huge difference for some enthusiast will limited budget.
The i7-3770k is priced at $329
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

@topic

If we do the math, the i7 is 65% more expensive than the vishera and I don't think it's a good comparison point. Some argue that octa-cored processors must not be compared with the quad-core i5 processor. Builders aren't restricted by specifications, it is likely that builders are restricted by BUDGET. Surely others can afford an i7 or even an i7-3960k. But for those looking for a processor at a particular price range of $200, the FX 8350 is perhaps the best choice. Was the underdog before, but there are now some experts saying that there are so many things overlooked in this processor. Also the seemingly obvious fact that AMD motherboards are slightly cheaper compared to the intel counterpart of the same or equally packed features. I happen to be an intel user but these really are interesting about the FX processors which are just recently revealed I guess.
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@Ace

The i7 will surely have an outstanding performance and it will ALWAYS top that chart for that matter. but for the i5-3570k, it looks like a different story.
To add to that, the price range of these processors are different and IS IN FAVOR OF THE FX 8350.

FX 8350 is priced at $199 right now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

while i5-3570k is at $229
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

That's already a huge difference for some enthusiast will limited budget.
The i7-3770k is priced at $329
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501

@topic

If we do the math, the i7 is 65% more expensive than the vishera and I don't think it's a good comparison point. Some argue that octa-cored processors must not be compared with the quad-core i5 processor. Builders aren't restricted by specifications, it is likely that builders are restricted by BUDGET. Surely others can afford an i7 or even an i7-3960k. But for those looking for a processor at a particular price range of $200, the FX 8350 is perhaps the best choice. Was the underdog before, but there are now some experts saying that there are so many things overlooked in this processor. Also the seemingly obvious fact that AMD motherboards are slightly cheaper compared to the intel counterpart of the same or equally packed features. I happen to be an intel user but these really are interesting about the FX processors which are just recently revealed I guess.

Cheaper mobos yes, but if someone cheaps out and buys bottom of the barrel heaven help them with cheap VRMS and high power draw at load. I wouldnt buy a mobo with anything less than a 6+2 power phase design for an FX 83xx chip, and probably not for a 6300 either. Even the power draw is relative as my i7-3820 pulls back the same amount of juice at the wall as our ESXI server with an 8350 does (although, to be fair, the 3820 has a gtx 560 ti and the AMD has a 20 watt video card). Even still with all the dang hard drives and the hardware raid and the 4 dimms, the idle of the 560 might not be as significant. Both systems were OCed by the way.

The FX chips are cheap, plentiful, and have an upgrade path. That extra 10 percent on the Intel isn't alwasy worth it in that light as you have said. I LOVE my 3820 and will keep that as my main rig, but the 8350 I built as a HTPC has also made me pleased as punch. AMD has a winning product here with the price point they chose for people who are hedging their bets that those extra 4 integer units may pay off down the line, or who are hoping AMD releases a follow up chip on the socket. The 8320 is an even bettah chip though as at 180 bucks it's 40 bucks less than a 3550k and clocks similarly to the 8350.

The FX chips are still not for everyone though. A lot of single threaded games do much better on the intel stuff, but hopefully more multi threaded apps will come out in the future to give AMD a bit more wiggle room.
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The FX chips are still not for everyone though. A lot of single threaded games do much better on the intel stuff, but hopefully more multi threaded apps will come out in the future to give AMD a bit more wiggle room.
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@Ace

The i7 will surely have an outstanding performance and it will ALWAYS top that chart for that matter. but for the i5-3570k, it looks like a different story.
To add to that, the price range of these processors are different and IS IN FAVOR OF THE FX 8350.


If we do the math, the i7 is 65% more expensive than the vishera and I don't think it's a good comparison point. Some argue that octa-cored processors must not be compared with the quad-core i5 processor.

What I see as well. However some people only want as much power, and they don't mind paying the 62% more, and the fact that the Intel processors are only quad core makes it so that they can dedicate more room on the die (amongst other technical stuff) to allow for single thread/quad core applications work better.

I guess it comes down to what you need to do. I picked the 8 core for my video rendering.
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