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All kidding aside,an Intel chip provides for smoother gameplay at this point in time.
I'd do a Lynnfield build for gaming before FX.
Anything core2quad and up is going to perform better than FX.
yet the denebs/thubans seem to do almost as good/better sometimes than core2.

If you would rather get a C2Q than a Piledriver FX then I think you may have been dropped on your head. It's the Ivy bridge i5 and i7's that beat Vishera in gaming and that may not be for long. With the PS4 using an 8 core CPU developers are going to make use of 8 threads rather than 2 or 4 powerful cores.
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Hello, i did not read to far into this thread, so forgive me if anyone has already commented on the matter or its no longer an issue.

The OP is asking about CPU for gaming, and i would like to point out an issue i had and i am wondering if it has been fixed
When i tried to run 680GTX in SLI on AMD there was a problem with proper SLI support. The card by itself ran great, but in SLI i got about 5 FPS
no matter what i tried to remedy the situation. I found out it was an issue with AMD chip set and Nvidia 600series at the time.There was no proper support implemented by either AMD or Nvidia at the time i tried.

So bottom line is if it still is an issue, AMD chip set(main-board) would not be recommended for SLI (600) series.

Hope this helps in some way as it kept me from getting an AMD mobo and CPU once i got 680GTX SLI and tested it on multiple platforms.

Edit: I did forget before i posted that this SLI issue was only in Surround at the time, i believe single screen will perform okay.(not tested)
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If you were to put an 3750k and an 8350 side by side with identical hardware in unmarked cases, I bet nobody could pick what is what based on performance in games.... I really wish someone did a study like this... I game on a 8150 @ 4.7 with a OC'd 7970 and a GTS450(physx) at 1080p and I have never run into issues on max GFX... plus I see most newer games are going to way higher threading, so YES intel does have stronger core pre core performance but you will only notice it in benchmarks, and lets be honest, do we play games or do we play benchmark? rolleyes.gif plus the 8350 trades blows with the i5 and even the i7 in some benches, not to mention it beats last years fad the BIG BAD 2500k.... so throw your benchmarks around all you want I doubt anyone could pick out the diffrence in real world scenerios, and also if your going to complain about bottlenecks in multi GPU's (8350 does fine with 2 heavy OC'd GPU's) if you can afford 4 $500 GPU's why not get a 3970x ??? common guys be real lol

On this I have to agree, I doubt anyone would notice a real difference if you conducted such a test/study, and despite all bad press on it, My 8150 though not a 3570k or an FX-8350 has done extremely well by me and my 6950's flashed to 6970 shaders. My point is that while Intel (in general) may rule the benchmarks and have all the nice numbers, in practice my AMD products perform nearly as well, satisfy me and do so at a lower price, but if as previously stated money is not an issue go for Intel. In the end its your call. And yes I pretty much piggybacked on this because I felt it needed to be.
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On this I have to agree, I doubt anyone would notice a real difference if you conducted such a test/study, and despite all bad press on it, My 8150 though not a 3570k or an FX-8350 has done extremely well by me and my 6950's flashed to 6970 shaders. My point is that while Intel (in general) may rule the benchmarks and have all the nice numbers, in practice my AMD products perform nearly as well, satisfy me and do so at a lower price, but if as previously stated money is not an issue go for Intel. In the end its your call. And yes I pretty much piggybacked on this because I felt it needed to be.

^^^^THIS (even tho hes agreeing with my quote it's true!!
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All kidding aside,an Intel chip provides for smoother gameplay at this point in time.
I'd do a Lynnfield build for gaming before FX.
Anything core2quad and up is going to perform better than FX.
yet the denebs/thubans seem to do almost as good/better sometimes than core2.


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post #236 of 258
actualy from my experience the performance of the amd fx 8350 is very good especialy once you add the Microsoft patches to windows 7 64bit I found the performance went up around 10% or more on average with the one alone then the second patch disables the core parking feature a big nono with amd fx cpus just a bit of info on the subject http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-oc-vs-i5-3570k-oc-battle-continues http://teksyndicate.com/videos/amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-3570k-vs-3770k-vs-3820-gaming-and-xsplit-streaming-benchmarks these tests are after the patches and are real game testing not synthetic benchmarks which can be very skewed aka very intel based so real world gaming tests are what I go by.


http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2645594 is a Microsoft direct link to one of the patches and explains what it does and why it makes a huge performance increase I couldn't find second one lol


I also want to point out the patches fix the issues a lot do not understand it was a new architecture and Microsoft didn't openly release patches for it till recently so all the misconceptions from near release were full of bs and most of the online benchs you find are not accurate the patches are not included in the reg updates from Microsoft so plz understand the crap most are feeding is not accurate nor is it true the piledriver improved a lot on the bulldozer add to it the patches benefit bulldozer a lot also so the benchs most find or have done are not accurate.
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I will say this I get a minimum of 75 fps in huge zergs in wvwvw in guildwars 2 maxxed settings 1920x1080 aka 1080p which brings most high end pc's to theyre knees because of the cpu usage to start with add to it in huge zergs most people even with high end pc's with highly OC'd I7 3770k and higher cpu's with sli gtx 680s don't get a good fps usualy drop to around 25-35 fps in the same situation so yes the amd fx 8350 does perform like a monster when setup properly and overclocked properly remember NB OCing is your friend with amd fx cpu's and tight timings on ram make the system fly like a dog shot in the butt with rocksalt and trust me that is fast.


I say the comment about the dog thing by experience I was raised on a farm and every so often we had stray dogs come into yard and try to kill animals and well I had to shoot one with rocksalt because it went after my neice lucky I didn't use a slug but my neice would never have forgiven me lol.
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If your not on a tight budget and if you have a microcenter around you I'd suggest getting an i7 3770k. Their pretty cheap right now and will out preform both 8350 and 3570k
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I am very happy with my choice to go amd fx 8350 and stand by it without any regrets so yes OP the 8350 is a very viable gaming cpu remember games/software are now starting to take up usage of more than 4 true cores so a quad with hyperthreading in alot of cases does not benefit much this is seen in cinebench and many others the future is in more cores than a quad and the 8350 is 8 true cores so it is future proofing somewhat and performs very well for the price and if setup properly with proper overclocking runs insanely fast at anything I set it at.

Did I mention the common misconception the amount of power it uses compared to intel is not much like $30 in 3yrs extra power usage and is more than $30 cheaper than most equivalent intel cpu's so basically the saving are immediate and in longrun the added cost is negligible at best so PLZ don't listen to all the people saying these things will raise powerbill a lot they don't not even when OC'd pretty high the increase of cost isn't much but yes the 8350 does tend to run warmer and draw a bit more power it is a 32nm design while newer intels are 28nm so do he math.

The amd fx 8350 is a very good performer in my book and is worth every dime I spent on mine and then some and overclocks very easily and did I mention fact amd high end motherboards are also far cheaper than intel equivalent motherboards so going fx 8350 also saves you money there.

I use a 4.6ghz x8 OC 24/7 without issues with a 2800mhz NB OC and 16gb (4x 4gb) of 1866mhz ram at 1866mhz on all sticks a bit tricky to get to run properly ram wise but it does flawlessly with a slight volt increase to ram and also the NB OC + NB volt increase. I also want to point out I also have a yate loon high rpm 140mm fan with air directed directly over mosfets / NB via a custom plastic air duct I made this keeps the temps nice and low which without would get higher than I liked on Mosfets/NB on asus sabertooth 990fx r2.0
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The amd fx 8350 + asus sabertooth 990fx r2.0 + 16gb (4x 4gb ) of 1866mhz ram only cost me $450 Intel equivalent motherboard + cpu + ram would have ran me around $650-$700 and not realy perform any better so I saved $200-$250 going the amd setup so the facts are I have a very capable gaming system that will last me quite a while and well lets put it this way I have taken my amd fx 8350 to 5.0ghz x8 100% stable for a few hours of benching/burnin so OP facts are if you want the synthetic bragging rights buy intel and spend a lot more cash if you want performance and best bang for buck go amd fx 8350 and I have explained why I say this and also have literaly put anything anyone can say to rest about why you should or have to go intel power draw/cost is bs the savings alone cover this for around 10yrs by then I hope you have upgraded heat issues realy is not a big thing factory cooling provided by oem heatsink in a case with good airflow is very acceptable even with mild overclocking the performance is there yes it might take some tweaking to fine tune it (NB OCing/ tightened timings on ram are by far easiest boost without any real overclocking as far as cpu goes) (but if you combine CPU and NB OCing/ tightening ram timings the benfits are very significant) but that is where the savings come in so OP give the info I have added a read and then make a decision.


I also want to point out the tweaking / OCing is where the fun comes in which is why a lot of us buy the higher end higher quality parts designed for this aka my motherboard / cpu hint black edition cpu (amd fx 8350)built to OC and asus sabertooth 990fx r2.0 designed for durability and massive overclocking and flat out built to last.
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