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im just stating facts. not "FX8350 is as good as i5 3570k in gaming" bulcrap. tried playing shogun 2 total war with that FX chip? it would suck hard. and how many amd CPU's have you owned? I've been an amd enthusiast over the years they just suck hard this gen.

I've had
2 athlon x2
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pH2 x6 1090t
FX 8150

why would it suck? would it be "unplayable" because it got 10fps less and go down to 50fps? .... you've proved my point you over exaggerate everything about AMD... how many AMD and Intel chips have you owned?
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I've had
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FX 8150
why would it suck? would it be "unplayable" because it got 10fps less and go down to 50fps? .... you've proved my point you over exaggerate everything about AMD... how many AMD and Intel chips have you owned?

way more than you bud. a athlon x2 3600+, athlon x2 7750, phenom II x3 +790FX, phenom II x4 955 C2, a few unlockable athlons and phenoms, Phenom II x6 1090T. I even got a 990FX UD7 board on release coz they were cheap. (and I Had amd graphics card from 4870 crossfire to 5970's and 6870 CF)and if you think it's BS i can post pictures and cpu-x screenshots if you want. that's the problem. you've never even tried an intel cpu . there's no question the FX8350 is a great chip. as far as the OP's thread title "is the FX8350 worth it for gaming?" DEFINITELY NOT! if you want a gaming cpu you want an i5. an i7 is not even needed( sometimes Hyperthreading has performance hit on some games)


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as far as intel cpu's goes I've only owned 4 chips atm. ( I've owned a pentium 1 and 4 but it's irrelevant tbh)

an i7 950 system I got dirt cheap when BD was released, an i5 3570k, i3 2120 and an i5 2500k I got for 100 bucks a few days ago. i know way more about amd cpu's than intel cpu's, you'd see my once in a while start a thread about something stupid about intel coz I really dunno much about it. with amd cpu's I even went as far as studying how the architecture worked with bulldozer, how integer cores work etc.
Edited by jprovido - 11/25/12 at 11:04am
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plz explain why its not worth it? the benches in this thread show AMD out performing intel, you'll probibly post others with intel winning and hey, thats fine, but heres a challenge.... post some benchmarks that show the AMD chip performing as unplayable, thats my point, AMD CPU's do really well(sometimes better than Intel) and other games they keep up good to, please tell me why its not worht it to save money? cause eventually like they do every year you'll have to buy another mobo cause the socket will change again..

*edit*
I have tried Intel CPU's

I have an i3 2300 as my download machine in my basement
I've owned p2, p4
I've also owned core 2 duo in my old lappy too
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plz explain why its not worth it? the benches in this thread show AMD out performing intel, you'll probibly post others with intel winning and hey, thats fine, but heres a challenge.... post some benchmarks that show the AMD chip performing as unplayable, thats my point, AMD CPU's do really well(sometimes better than Intel) and other games they keep up good to, please tell me why its not worht it to save money? cause eventually like they do every year you'll have to buy another mobo cause the socket will change again..
*edit*
I have tried Intel CPU's
I have an i3 2300 as my download machine in my basement
I've owned p2, p4
I've also owned core 2 duo in my old lappy too


I'm not even gonna waste effort. I know a number of titles that would benefit intel but im not even gonna mention them. just some games I had personal experience with. I had my phenom II x6 1090T @ 4.2ghz 3GHZ NB paired with two gtx 480's and I was once an amd zealot like you and trust me I've posted the same "you'll never notice the difference between 60fps vs. 80fps" BS way more times than you lol. once you've tried games that are cpu extensive but very lightly threadded you'd see amd cpu's struggle. I've tried simple games like WoW, shogun 2 total war, starcraft 2, civ 5. when I upgraded to an older i7 950 @ 4.1ghz the difference was night and day I couldn't believe it. again when you play a lot of starcraft and shogun total war you know what im talkin about, when there's hundreds of units in the screen. even an i5 3570k @ 5ghz would get less than 60fps. an FX chip would prolly struggle to get 20fps

ive mentioned this before but ima mention it again.

just a few months ago a friend of mine has a fairly high end system. great monitor, killer case and specs. an FX8150, HD7950 etc. I was watching him play dota 2 and mid-late game I saw his fps drop to 40fps. it was sad really. I have no idea how much money he spent with his rig. my lowly i3 2120 during that time that was made with cheaped out parts was outperforming his system(my i3 never goes below 60fps the whole game). sad really. t

the fact is 99% of games are still two-threadded. it's gonna change anytime soon apart from some titles like BF3, crysis 2, bad company 2 etc. the rest would still be two threaded. and that's with single gpu configs btw. I've seen FX systems with 7970 CF setups. It always makes me cringe when I see one
Edited by jprovido - 11/25/12 at 11:17am
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8350 is a fine cpu, and if you actually use your computer for doing work, its a great cpu for the money
mostly, its a tie. The intel CPU's beat the AMD cpus in games that are old, single threaded or that just os happen to be well optimized for Intel cpu's. this happens allot actually.
the power difference real world, is less then the cost of a pack of 100w incandescent light bulbs, annualy.
ehh, higher IPC at which instructions ?
funny how the cpu's tie with skyrim, becuase it isn't a well threaded game, IIRC skyrim is built with GCC compiler.
Personally, I suspect your a intel shell, trying to push intel sales in a weak quarter. You've done a aweful lot of positioning to make a intel purchase looking at all this research you've done.
no way, maybe becuase they use portland or gcc compilers ?

This AMD FX8350 vs Intel i7 3570K, flip a coin already! Power consumption and overclocking don't belong in the same sentence IMO! Have you seen this? It costs $10 dollars more than a i7 3570K, just have some airflow over those VRM's!
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I play WoW and SC2 and have never experienced unplayable frame rates... the only time you'll notice more than 60fps is on a 120hz monitor, my point is AMD is good for gaming your just a hater, I'm done argueing with you, I guess you couldnt find any benches that showed 8350 with unplayable fps, thnx for proving my point thumb.gif
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I play WoW and SC2 and have never experienced unplayable frame rates... the only time you'll notice more than 60fps is on a 120hz monitor, my point is AMD is good for gaming your just a hater, I'm done argueing with you, I guess you couldnt find any benches that showed 8350 with unplayable fps, thnx for proving my point thumb.gif

30fps is "playable". the point im trying to make is it's not as good as intel with gaming. we both know FX8350 has strengts like multithreaded workloads. here you are the amd zealot that you are posting cherry picked benchmarks saying the FX8350 is better in gaming. don't make me laugh
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I play WoW and SC2 and have never experienced unplayable frame rates... the only time you'll notice more than 60fps is on a 120hz monitor, my point is AMD is good for gaming your just a hater, I'm done argueing with you, I guess you couldnt find any benches that showed 8350 with unplayable fps, thnx for proving my point thumb.gif

Lol. I play Wow for like 7 years. I love amd but dont be biased. Try run any amd cpu with 25-man raid. Or 4v4 sc2 match. 8350 is fine for gaming but you dont buy a 8-core cpu for gaming. 80 % of the user here they dont even need more than 2 cores. Let alone the general population. You dont even need a 3570k to gaming. Just buy a i3.
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30fps is "playable". the point im trying to make is it's not as good as intel with gaming. we both know FX8350 has strengts like multithreaded workloads. here you are the amd zealot that you are posting cherry picked benchmarks saying the FX8350 is better in gaming. don't make me laugh
the guy asked for benches of 8350 beating a i5 so I posted what he asked...? "it's not as good as intel with gaming" thats true with most games yes, but by no means can you not play them on AMD thats my point, calm down and relax
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Lol. I play Wow for like 7 years. I love amd but dont be biased. Try run any amd cpu with 25-man raid. Or 4v4 sc2 match. 8350 is fine for gaming but you dont buy a 8-core cpu for gaming. 80 % of the user here they dont even need more than 2 cores. Let alone the general population. You dont even need a 3570k to gaming. Just buy a i3.

the only problem with i3's are they're not overclockable unlike before ( I had an i3 2120. the performance was "ok" but definitely not enough for my gtx 670) imho if you want the best gaming experience get a used/cheap i5 2500k. overclock it to at least 4.5ghz and you'll be good for a few years. It would take AMD a few generations to catch up to the "gaming performance" an i5 2500k @ 4.5ghz+ would give.
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the guy asked for benches of 8350 beating a i5 so I posted what he asked...? "it's not as good as intel with gaming" thats true with most games yes, but by no means can you not play them on AMD thats my point, calm down and relax

this statement is so wrong. when you buy an FX8350 system without a doubt you're gonna spend a bit of money. why would you settle for "playable performance" when a system like an i3 that's way more cheaper will outperform it in some ares? doesn't really rhyme with the price:performance that amd have been preaching for years don't get me wrong here. I think amd gpu's are great as well as the apu's and price:performance they're really great. AMD cpu's is a much tougher pill to swallow. I'll never recommend it on a gaming build
Edited by jprovido - 11/25/12 at 11:34am
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