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I would stick to 3570K. The New AMD CPU will not be out any time soon. I dont think they have plan to release a new CPU by 2013. Also you can upgrade 3570K too. Yes you would have to get a new MB but i pet you the current AMD mb they you get will not be good enough in 2 years.
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Originally Posted by l0max View Post

OP the 8350 is worth it for gaming.

good ninja edit you did there. you did realize you were making an argument that the FX chip is faster than the i3. lmao. you're comparing a budget cpu from a flagship cpu. the sad part is it even lost in some benchmarks you posted youself. with the price difference between the two you shouldnt he having "siimlar performance" in anything

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good ninja edit you did there. you did realize you were making an argument that the FX chip is faster than the i3. lmao. you're comparing a budget cpu from a flagship cpu. the sad part is it even lost in some benchmarks you posted youself. with the price difference between the two you shouldnt he having "siimlar performance" in anything
real mature to go for memes lol. time to go this thread just went full retard

it's obvious that you don't have any input on the actual OP. please stop.

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I'm currently looking at building a brand new PC from the ground up with a 8350, h100i, and hoping to crank it up to 5ghz. I know the i5 3570k is about the same price, and will out perform it, but I'm looking more to the future with Steamroller. Since vishera is a marginal percent better than the 8150 was, It seems like AMD has learned from their mistakes and are getting better. My primary question is, is it worth it to get a 8350 crank it to 5ghz to match or beat a i5 3570k by a little, and upgrade to Steamroller when it comes out (saving money on a mobo in the future) or get a i5 3570k, and upgrade my mobo and CPU when 2013 chips come out for intel? I'll be running a GTX 680 2gb with it, 8 gigs of ram, and a SSD (to give you a little idea of what my rig will be). Thanks ahead of time.

Let's clarify what the OP is looking for based on what they said they will be using and be done with it.

No 7970's in SLI as was mentioned earlier in one post as a opinion or any other combination, a single GTX 680 is what they stated would be the GPU used so we'd need to focus on that card as a spec for the new build but don't know if they intend to do some GPU tweaking (OC'ing) or just let it run as is. Also with the spec of 8GB's of RAM but don't know if they will be using standard, mid range or high end sticks or even if they will be clocking it high or leaving it close to stock, all of which will make a difference in final results regardless.

Another thing mentioned is whether to stick with the same MB with a newer CPU later or when the newest stuff comes out next year, replace both, the CPU and board they'll be buying now with a new one at that time, obviously adding to the price of the build when that time comes.
Also from what I'm seeing above, the GTX 680 will remain regardless of all else since there was no mention of a GPU change later.

All I can do is state my thoughts here on the subject.

First off, a 8350 should be capable of 5.0 with the mentioned cooler. With the extra cores vs lower models heat could become an issue, esp if on air but the H100 should be able to keep temps tolerable. The 3570K should also run well with it, heat with that chip shoudn't be a problem either so both slate in a doable. Note that the Ivy Bridge CPU's are known to run warmer than the Sandy Bridge CPU's do, so that kinda even things out in the cooling part of this.

I'm also wondering about the OP's ultimate expectation related to how much they want to invest.
I dunno since I'm not sure what the OP's exact expectations are here nor have an idea of their budget. For budget considerations, redoing a build only to redo it again with a new CPU and board within such a short period of time seems like a waste but again, if the OP is OK with it that's all good. Using the same board and only changing the CPU itself is a cheaper way to go about it and yes, perhaps the $$ not spent on a new board could go towards an even stronger GPU instead later if they want. However consider that the board used will affect it in a few ways, the CHV-Z model being the best overall and the most expensive one to get but even that board is cheaper than some boards for an Intel build.

I can though say with respect to the above for summing it up:

If the OP wants the absolute guaranteed max gaming performance and if $$ is no object, the 3570K way mentioned is the best with all else remaining the same.

If wanting to consider a budget with a limited investment in the build esp for the future, the 8350 now as stated would be best overall with all else also not changing - Unless there are plans to upgrade the GPU or something else later. redface.gif
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good ninja edit you did there. you did realize you were making an argument that the FX chip is faster than the i3. lmao. you're comparing a budget cpu from a flagship cpu. the sad part is it even lost in some benchmarks you posted youself. with the price difference between the two you shouldnt he having "siimlar performance" in anything
real mature to go for memes lol. time to go this thread just went full retard

Sorry to say but some of the stuff you are writting is just out of line. Think before writting please. I'm not going to say which cpu is better because it is irrelevant to the fact that you what you are writting is just random.

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Where did you get the idea that the 8350 is better than the 3570k? Let's get some benchmarks going (3d mark 11)biggrin.gif
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Bringing over some of my answers to this page:

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Well, to provide a proper and incontestable answer to your question... you may see better performance with the 8350 when you are in a multitasking scenario (i.e. transcoding video while gaming, unzipping a RAR file while gaming, etc etc). This decision is going to depend on your needs. Consider your own. There's a lot to read above and I find myself worrying that you're going to come here and find a long thread full of nothing that actually matters to you.

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I wonder where is the FX-6300 and 4300 in this discussion. The FX 6300 provides the same performance for most games which do not demand more than 2 cores or even 4 cores while coming at a price that is more competitive with the Ivy Bridge i3 than i5 (but providing the advantages). Now that may be a worthwhile chip for gaming.

Now, I suggest that we all calm down and focus on getting answers that matter to the original poster (OP). Being off-topic and unhelpful violates the TOS and may be subject to staff-incited penalties. We haven't even heard from the OP yet and he's going to come in here and open up to 9 pages worth of rhetoric. He hasn't said much about what he wants/needs in particular (i.e. which games) so it's a bit unfair to be going into so much debate right away without much info.

 

I like the post above that did a great job considering the OP's needs and future wants. For some clarification, Steamroller-based CPU may or may not come in the year 2014. Although an APU-only part may end up being the norm as a result of die shrink and process node improvements (i.e. one day you could 8 cores AND GPU cores into one die) and HSA.


Edited by xd_1771 - 11/25/12 at 12:26pm
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I'd recommend you do your own research rather than going off the posts here. Most reviews have the 3570K ahead in nearly every performance deparment minus heavily threaded programs thumb.gif
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I'd recommend you do your own research rather than going off the posts here. Most reviews have the 3570K ahead in nearly every performance deparment minus heavily threaded programs thumb.gif

Exacly, you will always get highly subjective answers in threads like this as it is already obvious from some of the above... people will pretty much write up anything just to justify their opinion.
Edited by adroit - 11/25/12 at 12:31pm
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