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They did all the research, but failed to ask (and answer) one important question, "Does anyone really want this thing?"
Sales are indicating the answer is a definitive No.

How can you sell something barely anything's available?

Also, how will you know if anyone wants it unless you try? That kind of thinking is stupid.
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Also, how will you know if anyone wants it unless you try? That kind of thinking is stupid.
Well, is that really a surprise? Look at the people posting in this thread.

Most of them have never touched a Surface and even the few that have surely never took the couple days to get used to how the touch interface works.
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The surface has the option to be more than a toy, which is why I want it. Being able to use x86 apps (all of them) on the surface pro is huge.
iPad is a toy, nothing more nothing less. You said it yourself. I want more than a toy in a mobile device, and the surface pro will be great in that respect. I can skype with my friends, watch any content via skydrive, and do all of my productivity work. As far as "content consumption", the surface pro allows you to use any x86 app to do just that. I can use VLC to watch my home video library via skydrive without having to be stuck in the overpriced itunes ecosystem. If you're a sucker and enjoy paying way too much for itunes crap, good for you. I, for one, do not enjoy paying more for music/movies on itunes than it costs to get anywhere else. Even the physical copies are less expensive. A sucker is born every minute though I suppose?
I suspect, that since you're really just an apple fanboy that you will find fault regardless. It just begs the question, why are you and steelbom bothering on this website which is devoted to high performance PC computing?


For musicians iPad isn't a toy, there are a lot of dedicated quality apps and hardware addons that mean you can use iPad for live gigs, practice, recording and as a touchscreen interface for your PC DAW..


Granted, what we always wanted was a windows compatible tablet that could do the same things... thumb.gif
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+1 i guess but still not pleased with it being closed and walled

with android even if telcos / OEM releasing firmwares for a year we still get continuous support from open communities like XDA
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The tablet itself is not a failure at all. It's a pretty awesome tablet. The fact it hasn't sold a lot doesn't make it less so. That could be for a ton of reasons, like the fact that it doesn't have a lot of apps yet or because of people that barely know anything about it keep bad mouthing it. I almost bought the Nexus 10 but I gave the Surface a chance and I love it. I hope more people give it a chance too so app ecosystem grows.

@ chuckycheeze, I agree it would be nice to have a specific notification area, I might try to code one, but you can tell if you got an email, text, etc by looking for the tile with the number on the corner. Also you can change how long the pop up notification stays.
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i just hope that Windows 7 is still supported then. For the past couple weeks I have tried finding a reason to upgrade to Windows 8 at I can't find one.
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The surface has the option to be more than a toy, which is why I want it. Being able to use x86 apps (all of them) on the surface pro is huge.

iPad is a toy, nothing more nothing less. You said it yourself. I want more than a toy in a mobile device, and the surface pro will be great in that respect. I can skype with my friends, watch any content via skydrive, and do all of my productivity work. As far as "content consumption", the surface pro allows you to use any x86 app to do just that. I can use VLC to watch my home video library via skydrive without having to be stuck in the overpriced itunes ecosystem. If you're a sucker and enjoy paying way too much for itunes crap, good for you. I, for one, do not enjoy paying more for music/movies on itunes than it costs to get anywhere else. Even the physical copies are less expensive. A sucker is born every minute though I suppose?
That's fair enough, but the ability to run x86 apps comes at a great cost: low battery life. It's better, if possible, to find a mobile platform capable of doing what you want, as it will generally have much better battery life. The x86 hardware with such a small battery is really just too much.

The iPad isn't a toy. There are a lot of "fun" uses for it but there are also productive uses for it as well. It's certainly not as productive as a x86 tablet, but what it can do, it can do a lot longer. It really depends on what someone wants out of it.
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I suspect, that since you're really just an apple fanboy that you will find fault regardless. It just begs the question, why are you and steelbom bothering on this website which is devoted to high performance PC computing?
Oh I don't know... could it be that we're interested in "high performance computing"? And OCN covers a lot of different types of technology too.
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The surface has the option to be more than a toy, which is why I want it. Being able to use x86 apps (all of them) on the surface pro is huge.
iPad is a toy, nothing more nothing less. You said it yourself. I want more than a toy in a mobile device, and the surface pro will be great in that respect. I can skype with my friends, watch any content via skydrive, and do all of my productivity work. As far as "content consumption", the surface pro allows you to use any x86 app to do just that. I can use VLC to watch my home video library via skydrive without having to be stuck in the overpriced itunes ecosystem. If you're a sucker and enjoy paying way too much for itunes crap, good for you. I, for one, do not enjoy paying more for music/movies on itunes than it costs to get anywhere else. Even the physical copies are less expensive. A sucker is born every minute though I suppose?
I suspect, that since you're really just an apple fanboy that you will find fault regardless. It just begs the question, why are you and steelbom bothering on this website which is devoted to high performance PC computing?

there are x86 tablets out currently they are bulky and heavy and have mediocre battery life. the surface pro is not going to be drastically different. that said, i don't know why someone would choose something with a 10" screen for x86 apps. it's just not ideal for doing serious work on or just running x86 programs on in general i'd argue. and for the price of a surface pro you could get a respectable ultrabook that won't be much heavier, with a larger screen. if you want to do work on a 10" tablet no one is going to stop you, but you're in the minority there (maybe you just have exceptional eyesight, literally "the eyes of a hawk")

personally, i have a spotify subscription and a netflix subscription (which i share with my family, so the cost per person is negligible.) anything i can't find i either check out from the library (easier to do as a college student when you have access to a university library) or rent. i don't feel the need to have a large movie collection since i don't rewatch the same movies that often. yeah itunes sucks, but you don't have to get ripped off by the cloud
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How can you sell something barely anything's available?

What does this even mean?
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What does this even mean?

Forgot the when.

You can't sell something if you don't have the product to sell.
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