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Forgot the when.
You can't sell something if you don't have the product to sell.

So what's your point? You're only making a circular argument in case you haven't noticed.
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http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-weve-sold-40-million-windows-8-licenses-to-date-7000007990/
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Update: Yes, we don't really know exactly what "licenses sold" includes and does not. Sold to consumers? Sold to channel? Includes licenses grandfathered in through volume license agreements. I've asked Microsoft to see if officials will clarify. If they do, I'll add an update here.

And the official word from a spokesperson: "We have nothing more to share."

It's the old shipped-vs-sold trick. It's as if Microsoft spent more time and effort figuring and implementing how to fudge sales numbers than actually make it a decent usable product.
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So what's your point? You're only making a circular argument in case you haven't noticed.

The point is that there's no way they can sell a product that isn't available for anyone to buy. From what I hear Windows tablets are extremely limited in availability.
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http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-weve-sold-40-million-windows-8-licenses-to-date-7000007990/
It's the old shipped-vs-sold trick. It's as if Microsoft spent more time and effort figuring and implementing how to fudge sales numbers than actually make it a decent usable product.

But that's the way they've always counted it. Why does Windows 8 have to get the special treatment?
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The point is that there's no way they can sell a product that isn't available for anyone to buy. From what I hear Windows tablets are extremely limited in availability.
But that's the way they've always counted it. Why does Windows 8 have to get the special treatment?


looks like plenty available to me

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=Property&Subcategory=2557&Description=&Type=&N=100013681&IsNodeId=1&IsPowerSearch=1&srchInDesc=&MinPrice=&MaxPrice=&OEMMark=N&PropertyCodeValue=449%3A339747&PropertyCodeValue=449%3A339748&PropertyCodeValue=449%3A347307&name=Windows-8-Tablets
 
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The point is that there's no way they can sell a product that isn't available for anyone to buy. From what I hear Windows tablets are extremely limited in availability.
But that's the way they've always counted it. Why does Windows 8 have to get the special treatment?

windows phones are exactly selling well either
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9 tablets, 4 of which are out of stock, as compared to 139 Android 4.0/4.1 tablets. Also, out of all of those tablets, there is only one RT version, and it's $550.
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windows phones are exactly selling well either

I assume you meant aren't? If so, then the entire reason why Microsoft designed Windows 8 this way was to try and get people interested in their smartphones and tablets. If they manage to create a Windows ecosystem centered around a desktop PC which almost everyone has, people are more likely to be drawn into it.
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Way to go ms! thumb.gif
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post #78 of 95
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The point is that there's no way they can sell a product that isn't available for anyone to buy. From what I hear Windows tablets are extremely limited in availability.
But that's the way they've always counted it. Why does Windows 8 have to get the special treatment?

Well you hear wrong! All the stores in my area (Boston MA) have Windows RT tablets in stock. And the MS store is over stocked with the surface and they are not selling good smile.gif Words right from the reps mouth. Yes! The rep who finally emitted to owning an iPad and liking it much more than the Surface smile.gif

I go to the Apple store and the Microsoft store at least once or twice a month and they both are across from each other in Boston. The Microsoft store mostly has people near the XBOX section (Usually families with kids, after all it is right near a huge food court in the plaza) . The Surface area usually looks like a ghost town. At least 2 - 4 employees standing around at any giving time and the store space is only 1/4 the size of the Apple store. Last time when I went to the MS store there were 5 employees standing there with nothing to do.

The Apple store usually is pretty packed, depends on what time you go, but in the day time it's usually packed with far more purchasers than the MS store. I always see at least one person coming out of the Apple store with a purchase as I approach...

Microsoft should have focus on pushing the new XBOX out rather than Windows 8 RT Crapface and let the other manufacture play with Windows RT.

Also, most manufacturer are not going to go all out and rush Windows 8 tablets until they feel it is safe to do so.

Microsoft has to face it! Windows Surface cannot compete with the iPad or most of the high-end Android tablets, like the Nexus 10! This is the Zune all over again biggrin.gif

Microsoft is way too late to the game, time for them to pack-up and focus on the next XBOX smile.gif

The real question is: After MS discover there fail in 4 years, will they just discontinue the whole Windows 8 RT market place or will they try to re-invent the wheel once again to a point where the Windows market place becomes a crippled mess and the first adopters get left in the dust?
Edited by nsseriouspanda - 11/29/12 at 7:22am
post #79 of 95

I wish there was a MS near me, nearest is a 4h drive.

 

Problem is, MS surface website is limited to what Surface you can buy. I've been waiting for a month to buy a two 64GB version, without a keyboard, or only with a mechanical keyboard.. there is no way to currently purchase that online. I suspect many people are in this boat and just waiting till MS fixes it.

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Well you hear wrong! All the stores in my area (Boston MA) have Windows RT tablets in stock. And the MS store is over stocked with the surface and they are not selling good smile.gif Words right from the reps mouth. Yes! The rep who finally emitted to owning an iPad and liking it much more than the Surface smile.gif
I go to the Apple store and the Microsoft store at least once or twice a month and they both are across from each other in Boston. The Microsoft store mostly has people near the XBOX section (Usually families with kids, after all it is right near a huge food court in the plaza) . The Surface area usually looks like a ghost town. At least 2 - 4 employees standing around at any giving time and the store space is only 1/4 the size of the Apple store. Last time when I went to the MS store there were 5 employees standing there with nothing to do.
The Apple store usually is pretty packed, depends on what time you go, but in the day time it's usually packed with far more purchasers than the MS store. I always see at least one person coming out of the Apple store with a purchase as I approach...
Microsoft should have focus on pushing the new XBOX out rather than Windows 8 RT Crapface and let the other manufacture play with Windows RT.
Also, most manufacturer are not going to go all out and rush Windows 8 tablets until they feel it is safe to do so.
Microsoft has to face it! Windows Surface cannot compete with the iPad or most of the high-end Android tablets, like the Nexus 10! This is the Zune all over again biggrin.gif
Microsoft is way too late to the game, time for them to pack-up and focus on the next XBOX smile.gif
The real question is: After MS discover there fail in 4 years, will they just discontinue the whole Windows 8 RT market place or will they try to re-invent the wheel once again to a point where the Windows market place becomes a crippled mess and the first adopters get left in the dust?

If this grammar is a product of the current US educational system, I weep for our future generation. Youth are more technology-connected than ever, yet their grammar keeps getting worse. I really don't understand it.
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