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I have in my system right now
AMD 4200 x2 2.4ghz
OCZ pc3200 512x2
BFG 7950GT OC
Asrock 939Dual-SATA2

I've been looking into the new Duos from intel. I'm basically gonna use the rig for gaming. How much would a C2D 6300 and DDR2 ram effect my system in performance for games?
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Very little. That Asrock is the board with the agp and pci-e slot right?
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yup... has both. i use the pci-e for my bfg 7950 gt oc
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Buying a more powerful video card would improve your fps in gaming much more than a E6300. If you really feel the need for more graphical horsepower sell your current card and get a 8800GTS which after the sale would cost you less than a E6300 and the ram. The 8800GTS can run any game that is out right now at maximum settings at any resolution up to 1600x1200.
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Originally Posted by Jaggar View Post
yup... has both. i use the pci-e for my bfg 7950 gt oc
Nice, I heard that board had problems with running anything other than a X300se in the PCI-e. Your setup now is pretty good, and you should be able to play every game at max or near max settings. You could get better frame rates, but not until you spend about $1500 at least.
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actually i dont feel that my pc is performing up to par.... what scores should i be looking at at 3d mark 06, last time i checked i couldnt get over 3000 pcu and gpu for the 1st two tests
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4,500 stock in 06, 5,300 overclocked.

The score is the sum of all three tests...
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What is your total score in 3dmark06 jaggar?
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gime a minute to run every test available. 1280x1024 AA=none filtering optimal
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post #10 of 12
I believe your scores and fps would and will improve greatly w/ a C2. I have a 7900gt @ gtx clox, I couldn't break 10,000 on 3d 05' w/ my P_805d @ 3.7ghz ! Just by upgrading the cpu, Im almost at 12,000 points now. Not to mention the improvement in games w/ heavy Ai, or anything cpu stressing, is a breeze now. Oblivion Elder scrolls @ 1680x1050, w/ HDR enabled, runs average of 60fps now....not even posible before.
Even things that should only be graphics related, such as AA and AF, wich run almost exclusively on the GPU, are faster and smoother now. I run, Rise of Legends, @ 1680x1050 at 4x AA and AF, and rarely see any battle scene that bogs the fps down below 30fps....again, not even possible to play at these settings with the previous cpu.
My verdict....-> I had a cpu that could not supply my Oc'd GPU w/ enuf information to work it at its full potential. I would say its safe to say that your CPU compared to a new 8800 would be very insufficient.

Q-> can you average higher than 70fps, running a CSS sever on your rig w/ 20 bots, @ full Q and res? just curious...
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