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I've owned two 7970s in the past, (which were voltage locked, mind you). The first one could not clock further than 1050, while the second one could do 1090 (which are a little better than GHZ clocks, but not much). They were also whinning (both of them..), so I decided to get a refund and went for a GTX 670 instead.
My GTX 670 is faster than my 7970s (i'm not talking about crossfire, just 1 card vs 1 card), mostly because it overclock quite well.

That's my heaven score with a mild overclock.
Heaven score with a single 7970 was 47 frames per second (at 1060 core / 1500 memory). I dont have the screenshot for it, unfortunatly.
In my case, the GTX 670 is 11% faster than the 7970, because of the overclock.
If you get a 7970 that can clock 1300+, it WILL destroy anything that Nvidia has to offer, but if you get a lemon, like I did, twice, you will be disapointed.
I'm not trying to mislead people. I insist on the fact that kepler and tahiti are close because I had to learn the hard way that they are. And i'm not just pulling that out of my arse, I owned them.
If you get a bad clocking chip, may it be a AMD or a Nvidia, it will perform poorly, while a good clocking chip will perform well.
This is why I say that they are in the same league.
Drivers used : 12.11 Beta 4 (tahiti) and 310.xx (kepler)
EDIT : Here is a few runs of heaven. Notice that the tahiti@1070 scored 47 fps, which is on par with what mines scored. And notice that the 670 scored only 43 fps. I'm posting that mainly to show how well both tahiti and keplers scale with overclocks.

No 1680x1050 scores there, irrelevant to your past score.

I split your claimed 1050 and 1090 runs, 1075/1600.

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Arizonian, thanks for all the info! I do like the Samsung monitor you have mentioned and have looked at it before. It is however out of my price range. I was looking more into the BenQ XL240T. I know this is a Nvidia monitor and have checked it out on AMD's website. Although going into deciding which company's card to buy I was wanting 3D but I know I will probably use it very rarely.

I think I am going to opt for the 7950's in CF as other users have mentioned and take the increased fps with a 120Hz monitor.

Its just really hard being a consumer in a manufacturers world, I don't know how much time I have spent changing parts around and around again lol.
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With that in mind, it's safe to say that you will have a lot more of horsepower with the 7950s in CF than with a single 680. It will consume more than twice the wattage and generate a lot of heat (they are closer than the 480s than most will adrmit), but it will be really, really fast.[/QUOT]

With that being said, would you take 2 7950s in CF over the 680? even with the downsides you have mentioned?
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Arizonian, thanks for all the info! I do like the Samsung monitor you have mentioned and have looked at it before. It is however out of my price range. I was looking more into the BenQ XL240T. I know this is a Nvidia monitor and have checked it out on AMD's website. Although going into deciding which company's card to buy I was wanting 3D but I know I will probably use it very rarely.

I think I am going to opt for the 7950's in CF as other users have mentioned and take the increased fps with a 120Hz monitor.

Its just really hard being a consumer in a manufacturers world, I don't know how much time I have spent changing parts around and around again lol.

The Benqs are not HD3D panels.

http://sites.amd.com/us/recommended/Pages/hd3d-panels.aspx

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The problem is that you are misleading people by saying they are really close when the facts all point to this not being the case. The 7970GE is 10-15% faster and costs less. 7970GE is faster in like 90% of games and in those few where the 680 is faster, it's because of some obscure coding by the developer for the game to run better on Nvidia cards. It's like you can't accept the fact that the 680 is slower. When overclocking, the AMD card benefits EVEN MORE and the lead widens. 680s running 1300+ with big memory overclocks are getting beat by overclocked 7950s, and spanked by 7970s.

I've owned two 7970s in the past, (which were voltage locked, mind you). The first one could not clock further than 1050, while the second one could do 1090 (which are a little better than GHZ clocks, but not much). They were also whinning (both of them..), so I decided to get a refund and went for a GTX 670 instead.

My GTX 670 is faster than my 7970s (i'm not talking about crossfire, just 1 card vs 1 card), mostly because it overclock quite well.




That's my heaven score with a mild overclock.
Heaven score with a single 7970 was 47 frames per second (at 1060 core / 1500 memory). I dont have the screenshot for it, unfortunatly.

In my case, the GTX 670 is 11% faster than the 7970, because of the overclock.
If you get a 7970 that can clock 1300+, it WILL destroy anything that Nvidia has to offer, but if you get a lemon, like I did, twice, you will be disapointed.

I'm not trying to mislead people. I insist on the fact that kepler and tahiti are close because I had to learn the hard way that they are. And i'm not just pulling that out of my arse, I owned them.
If you get a bad clocking chip, may it be a AMD or a Nvidia, it will perform poorly, while a good clocking chip will perform well.


This is why I say that they are in the same league.




Drivers used : 12.11 Beta 4 (tahiti) and 310.xx (kepler)



EDIT : Here is a few runs of heaven. Notice that the tahiti@1070 scored 47 fps, which is on par with what mines scored. And notice that the 670 scored only 43 fps. I'm posting that mainly to show how well both tahiti and keplers scale with overclocks.


You got issues and you're all butthurt over the fact that you could not overclock your 79xx so you are on a tirade. Childish.
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2560x1600

29% faster than the 680
34% faster than the 670

Close as the battle has ever been wink.gif

I can run any benchmark requested up 2560x1600, just name it.


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AMD this generation has the best of the best and still cost lower than a 680. I actually started to respect this company and I might buy one of their next product line.

Couldn't agree more, I have seen some amazing things from AMD and am actually contemplating about going with an AMD processor. Not to get off topic but does anyone know if they are any good for streaming? And which one would it be? How they compare to Intel?

I know a lot about Intel processors but going over to AMD is like trying to learn a second language lol.
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AMD this generation has the best of the best and still cost lower than a 680. I actually started to respect this company and I might buy one of their next product line.

Couldn't agree more, I have seen some amazing things from AMD and am actually contemplating about going with an AMD processor. Not to get off topic but does anyone know if they are any good for streaming? And which one would it be? How they compare to Intel?

I know a lot about Intel processors but going over to AMD is like trying to learn a second language lol.


It's not a good time to move to AMD cpus. The only one I would use is Thuban if I was in that market.
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LOL that thread makes the decision a no brainer.
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The BenqQs are not HD3D panels.
I know this but I will probably just get it for 120Hz capability.
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LOL that thread makes the decision a no brainer.


The numbers speak for themselves. thumb.gif

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The BenqQs are not HD3D panels.
I know this but I will probably just get it for 120Hz capability.


Ah gotcha. The Benqs are pricey panels. The Benqs and the Sammy should be in same price range though? Were you price comparing the refurb Benqs?
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