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?

That is 1680X1050

the original quote you were responding to
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12.11 vs 310.61 is hugely in favour of AMD in BF3. 12% faster at 1080p and 13% faster at 1600p.

Try reading better?

http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page4.html
Here is 1080p

Ghz leads by 9 FPS while 925Mhz 7970 ties with 1100Mhz+ GTX 680.

and here is 1600p


Edited by sherlock - 11/27/12 at 8:28am
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did you see the resolutions i mentioned. your posts are very desperate. trying to hold on to the last bit of pride, i guess. previously people wanted 1920 x 1080 to be standard for judging GTX 680 performance. now you want to look at 1680 x 1050 because GTX 680 is slower than HD 7970 Ghz at 1920 x 1080. rolleyes.gif
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did you see the resolutions i mentioned. your posts are very desperate. trying to hold on to the last bit of pride, i guess. previously people wanted 1920 x 1080 to be standard for judging GTX 680 performance. now you want to look at 1680 x 1050 because GTX 680 is slower than HD 7970 Ghz at 1920 x 1080. rolleyes.gif

There are better way to argue than to attack someone personally.

I also edited my post a a few minutes ago. I'll give you that the 7970 GHZ have the edge when it comes to memory bandwidth, but I really feel that your exaggeration about the 7970 are really misleading. I, for instance, was expecting something big when I received my first 7970, yet I learned the hard way that a voltage locked 7970 is just bad.

I never stated that the 680 was more powerful. All I am trying to say is that both are really close, yet you are still trying to discredit all I write.
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did you see the resolutions i mentioned. your posts are very desperate. trying to hold on to the last bit of pride, i guess. previously people wanted 1920 x 1080 to be standard for judging GTX 680 performance. now you want to look at 1680 x 1050 because GTX 680 is slower than HD 7970 Ghz at 1920 x 1080. rolleyes.gif

It used to be 1920X1080p 4XAA


Because at 8XAA this happens to 256 bit/192 bit bus Keplers

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I wouldn't even consider a 680 if i can afford 2x7950's tongue.gif
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It used to be 1920X1080p 4XAA

Because at 8XAA this happens to 256 bit/192 bit bus Keplers


This is very true.
Moreover, i found that a large memory overclock is really giving a strong performance boost to kepler cards.
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There are better way to argue than to attack someone personally.
I also edited my post a a few minutes ago. I'll give you that the 7970 GHZ have the edge when it comes to memory bandwidth, but I really feel that your exaggeration about the 7970 are really misleading. I, for instance, was expecting something big when I received my first 7970, yet I learned the hard way that a voltage locked 7970 is just bad. I never stated that the 680 was more powerful. All I am trying to say is that both are really close, yet you are still trying to discredit all I write.

about attacking personally you should go back to a few posts where you said
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If you still think that those cards are not in the same league after this, well, i'll have to come to the conclusion that you're either blind or fool.

users like bruennis who has compared the GTX 680 Lightning (1372 Mhz) to the Gigabyte HD 7950(1280 Mhz) and psyside who has compared the Sapphire HD 7950(1140 Mhz) to GTX 680 (1260 Mhz) clearly state the HD 7950 is faster than GTX 680 even at 100 Mhz lesser clocks. this is in games like BF3, Metro 2033, Sleeping Dogs, Crysis Warhead .

there is enough evidence to prove that HD 7970 is 10 - 15% faster than GTX 680 in the most demanding games at the highest settings even at 1080p. the GTX 680 is slower than even against a 100 Mhz lower clocked HD 7950.

exaggeration. which part. the information i posted is from sites which regularly review computer hardware.
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One word about amd: Drivers are great and with less trouble than Nvidia drivers this gen

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There are better way to argue than to attack someone personally.
I also edited my post a a few minutes ago. I'll give you that the 7970 GHZ have the edge when it comes to memory bandwidth, but I really feel that your exaggeration about the 7970 are really misleading. I, for instance, was expecting something big when I received my first 7970, yet I learned the hard way that a voltage locked 7970 is just bad.
I never stated that the 680 was more powerful. All I am trying to say is that both are really close, yet you are still trying to discredit all I write.

The problem is that you are misleading people by saying they are really close when the facts all point to this not being the case. The 7970GE is 10-15% faster and costs less. 7970GE is faster in like 90% of games and in those few where the 680 is faster, it's because of some obscure coding by the developer for the game to run better on Nvidia cards. It's like you can't accept the fact that the 680 is slower. When overclocking, the AMD card benefits EVEN MORE and the lead widens. 680s running 1300+ with big memory overclocks are getting beat by overclocked 7950s, and spanked by 7970s.
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The problem is that you are misleading people by saying they are really close when the facts all point to this not being the case. The 7970GE is 10-15% faster and costs less. 7970GE is faster in like 90% of games and in those few where the 680 is faster, it's because of some obscure coding by the developer for the game to run better on Nvidia cards. It's like you can't accept the fact that the 680 is slower. When overclocking, the AMD card benefits EVEN MORE and the lead widens. 680s running 1300+ with big memory overclocks are getting beat by overclocked 7950s, and spanked by 7970s.

I've owned two 7970s in the past, (which were voltage locked, mind you). The first one could not clock further than 1050, while the second one could do 1090 (which are a little better than GHZ clocks, but not much). They were also whinning (both of them..), so I decided to get a refund and went for a GTX 670 instead.

My GTX 670 is faster than my 7970s (i'm not talking about crossfire, just 1 card vs 1 card), mostly because it overclock quite well.




That's my heaven score with a mild overclock.
Heaven score with a single 7970 was 47 frames per second (at 1060 core / 1500 memory). I dont have the screenshot for it, unfortunatly.

In my case, the GTX 670 is 11% faster than the 7970, because of the overclock.
If you get a 7970 that can clock 1300+, it WILL destroy anything that Nvidia has to offer, but if you get a lemon, like I did, twice, you will be disapointed.

I'm not trying to mislead people. I insist on the fact that kepler and tahiti are close because I had to learn the hard way that they are. And i'm not just pulling that out of my arse, I owned them.
If you get a bad clocking chip, may it be a AMD or a Nvidia, it will perform poorly, while a good clocking chip will perform well.


This is why I say that they are in the same league.




Drivers used : 12.11 Beta 4 (tahiti) and 310.xx (kepler)



EDIT : Here is a few runs of heaven. Notice that the tahiti@1070 scored 47 fps, which is on par with what mines scored. And notice that the 670 scored only 43 fps. I'm posting that mainly to show how well both tahiti and keplers scale with overclocks.

Edited by splinterize - 11/27/12 at 8:00pm
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