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So I got an HX1000 off a buddy of mine about a year ago, and recently I have been getting voltage warnings in my ASUS AI suite warning of low voltages. mad.gif

Idle voltages are 11.85, 4.85 and 3.008 and under load they drop to 11.8, 4.8 and down to 2.9. I already ordered a replacement power supply so I wont suffer any downtime on my rig while I RMA my PSU. But I have been curious what would make a PSU spit out such bad voltages. It's about 2 years old I think. Also, another thing I was wondering about is that I have had three 570's die on me. The first two were my SLI 570s, and they ran fine until my top ASUS card crapped out on me, That was about a year after I bought it. and then my EVGA 570 died 6 months after purchase. I RMA'd it and got another one back, It gives me a black screen and a sound loop under load. So to replace that I have been using a 550ti, unfortunately. Could this power supply have killed my 570's? Also I'm running an ASUS P8P67 Deluxe, with a 2700k OC'd to 4.8 for about a year now.

AX850 is coming in the mail soon, so hopefully I get better voltages with that. :/

Thanks for the help.

Edit: I checked my voltages in my bios and they were at 12.000, 4.920 and the 3.3v rail was fluctuating between 3.152 and 3.044. Also I believe that the complete shutdown with no error messages has been from my psu.
Edited by connorman51 - 11/25/12 at 4:56pm
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Software has a tendency to be very inaccurate (after all, it's just software)..  If the BIOS is accurate, then these voltages except for the 3.3V are very good and are within ATX spec.  The acceptable range for the 3.3V according to ATX spec is 3.135 to 3.465.  The +12V range is 11.40 to 12.60, and +5V is 4.75 to 5.25.

 

The 570s draw their power from the +12V, so their death must've been caused by something else.

 

 

Edit:  Whoa!  Nevermind.  According to this, the +3.3V powers the following:

 

Some motherboard chipsets
RAM modules
Graphics card onboard control circuitry
Some PCI cards

 

So, maybe the +3.3V rail killed the 570s.  I apologize for the incorrect information.  I hope I edited my post in time.


Edited by TwoCables - 11/25/12 at 5:07pm
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post #3 of 21
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Yeah, that makes sense. Hopefully my 550ti hold on until my AX850 comes in the mail. I have a good idea why my 570s died as well. Since I ran them really hard, all the time. The first two were on water running stock, so heat didn't kill anything, and there were no leaks, ever, so shorts were out of the question.

I understand that software can be very inaccurate, and I do believe mine factors in that. But getting warnings about voltages is worrying for me since I like to keep things in tight spec. If I had a multimeter I would check my voltages with it.

RMAing my 570 again soonish, when i get the money to ship it out to evga. *sigh* lol

Don't worry about it biggrin.gif

And from what I am understanding the 3.3v rail would power the control circuitry like VRMs ect? Because that would explain a lot. Since as you most likely know, they 570 is almost identical to a 480 except with 2 less VRMs and a higher clock speed and less vram. So running high load with bad voltages to VRM control would cause something to go wrong eventually, I would expect. And they were all ref 570s.
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Yeah, that makes sense. Hopefully my 550ti hold on until my AX850 comes in the mail. I have a good idea why my 570s died as well. Since I ran them really hard, all the time. The first two were on water running stock, so heat didn't kill anything, and there were no leaks, ever, so shorts were out of the question.
I understand that software can be very inaccurate, and I do believe mine factors in that. But getting warnings about voltages is worrying for me since I like to keep things in tight spec. If I had a multimeter I would check my voltages with it.
RMAing my 570 again soonish, when i get the money to ship it out to evga. *sigh* lol
Don't worry about it biggrin.gif
And from what I am understanding the 3.3v rail would power the control circuitry like VRMs ect? Because that would explain a lot. Since as you most likely know, they 570 is almost identical to a 480 except with 2 less VRMs and a higher clock speed and less vram. So running high load with bad voltages to VRM control would cause something to go wrong eventually, I would expect. And they were all ref 570s.

 

Yeah, I have to assume the VRM is critical (because I don't know enough to be able to be sure).  I mean after all, it is the Voltage Regular Module and it's responsible for regulating the voltage before it reaches the GPU!  Damn.  I just can't imagine how depressing and how difficult this is.

 

I think that as long as you are very gentle on your system until the new PSU arrives, it should be fine.  I mean damn, if that +3.3V reading is correct, and if that's why the 570s died, then I would just do e-mail and internet until then.

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post #5 of 21
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Quite, on 570s esp. I haven't heard of another card with more VRM issues than the 570. People overclocking and melting heatsinks. -.- Oh the 570 death threads. I will be getting a 670 in the near future, but not 100% sure when...

But I will be easy on it as much as I can until my new PSU comes in. Real shame having three 570s die though.

Hopefully things go well.

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You're welcome.

 

To be honest, I didn't know that this was a bit common.  It's almost as if the 570s need an absolutely perfect +3.3V supply line just to barely live!  lol  :)  Good grief.

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Well possibly, I think Nvidia dun goofed when they designed the 570 with 4 VRMs for a card that realistically needs 6. it was pretty much a recipe for disaster. Heard of cards burning out VRMs at stock. Main reason why I will be upgrading cards. lol I am quite excited for the GK110 card coming out some time soonish though. Going to smash records once again.
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Oh, it was a lack of VRMs?  lol Well, then to NVIDIA I say "Good job, noobs!  Thanks a lot!"  :)

 

Is GK110 for cards like the GTX 780?

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yeah, the gpu draws enough power to essentially max 4 VRMs for power. and yes indeed that will be the 780, I do believe.
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Also, before I posted this thread, I was playing chivalry and about 20-25 minutes in my computer just completely powered off. I know my cpu and gpu temperatures are fine so thermal overload wouldn't be an issue. Could this be from voltages dropping so much? Or would it be completely unrelated?
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