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post #1 of 17
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Hello there,
here's my problem: I just bought a new e6300 cpu coming with a free Ecs P4M800Pro-M ( I know it's not the best mobo around here but it's free sor for now...) thinking that it will help running better newer games like Scareface and nfsCarbon. It is for replacing my Amd Barton 2500+ oc @ 2.2ghz running on a Ecs since my MSI mobo burn (other story). I do use my new cpu with the Ecs Mobo with my old Graphic Card AGP BFG 6200 OC, also with 2g of 3200 Crappy no-name ebay ram (replacing my 512 mo geil golden dragon). After Installing everyting on my case I was happy to see the general gaming improvement in Scareface, but after a minute of running it crashed. Same thing with Nfs Carbon. So i decided to Run Super PI to test my computer generals, so I wasn't able to run S.PI at 1mg. I finally solved my problem by downclocking my memory to 366. I can now run Scareface without crashing but for decent gaming I have to put graphics in 800*600, antialising 2x, special fx on, view distance medium, everything else off. It's decent but when I got a lot of action, my computer starts slowing a lot! Is this juste me or it's not normal? In the case of Super PI I think that my results are not as I can expect record: 38 sec @ 1mo.
I was thinking that with a e6300 the bottleneck of my system can be the HDD, so a Barracuda 400G sata2 is on the way, but I see that my ram may be a lot more important, what do you think? I was also thinking of OCing my cpu but I don't really understand the link between oc the cpu and the ram¸ can it be unuseful to oc with such a crappy ram? is my system normal? Can it be the Graphic Card? Can Someone help?
thanks
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post #2 of 17
First of all, you got the wrong MoBo and RAM combo to be driving that Core 2 Duo and 2nd of all, an AGP 6200?

^^^ That combo is as schitty as playing with an on-board video.

Wanna see an improvement, and I do mean a "real" improvement?

Get a P5B-E and Corsair XMS2 DDR2 675 at least and a GeForce 7600 GT, then and only then you'll see the difference.

Unfortunately that's about the only way that you'll be able to play decent games with nice res w/o crashing.
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First of all, you got the wrong MoBo and RAM combo to be driving that Core 2 Duo and 2nd of all, an AGP 6200?

^^^ That combo is as schitty as playing with an on-board video.

Wanna see an improvement, and I do mean a "real" improvement?

Get a P5B-E and Corsair XMS2 DDR2 675 at least and a GeForce 7600 GT, then and only then you'll see the difference.

Unfortunately that's about the only way that you'll be able to play decent games with nice res w/o crashing.
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The reason I run with a bfg 6200 oc is that I already have this card from my old system, and before investing in a pci-e mobo and v.card, I wanted to see what I can obtain with my actual parts without investing too much. I now see the result and if nobody have other suggestions I'll go with the 7600 GT and the P5B-E.

talking about the 7600 Gt, Any brand to recommand? do you recommand to go with major brand like BFG, Asus or I don't know, or the XFX will do the same job?

And what should I get first: the mobo v.card or Corsair ram?
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post #5 of 17
Yeah you should just upgrade it a bit further. I also thought about getting a C2D/ECS combo but decided that if i wait, something better will come out and i'll probably be unsatisfied with the ECS anyway.
post #6 of 17
Volskpirit; so far you have the CPU.

Except you need to get all three at the same time: MoBo-RAM-&-Video Card.

But honestly, since that DX10 is almost here, I'd suggest some used card which will be better than a 7600 GT, something like a 7800 GT, mainly because the 7600 GT may have a foot in the grave pretty soon while the 7800 GT may last for at least another full year and a little more.

Remember, have to have all 3 at the same time so that you have a rig that's fully operational.
post #7 of 17
Ok, get a cheap P965 mobo, Biostar T-Force P965, or Gigabyte S3 all for around uner $110. Get a 7900GT or GTO. And some better RAM.
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post #8 of 17
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Thanks for all your suggestions, I'm shopping for all that stuff at this time

and what about the graphic card brand? Msi, Bfg? cheaper brand, XFx evga or something like that?
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 E6300 @ 2.75 Asus P5B-E Evga 7800 GT CO Corsair XMS2 2gb 
Hard DrivePower
400g Barracuda, 250g Caviar Cooler Master 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core 2 E6300 @ 2.75 Asus P5B-E Evga 7800 GT CO Corsair XMS2 2gb 
Hard DrivePower
400g Barracuda, 250g Caviar Cooler Master 
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post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Volskpirit View Post
Thanks for all your suggestions, I shopping for all that stuff at this time

and what about the graphic card brand? Msi, Bfg? cheaper brand, XFx evga or something like that?
For VGA card,the top brands are EVGA,BFG and XFX.anyone of them will be good. I highly recommend getting a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Motherboard for your cpu
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post #10 of 17
I recommend Gigabyte DS3 for a cheap Mobo with great overclocking possibilities.

As for GPU EVGA and BFG are wel known for making good GPU.

PS. Get a 7600gt
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