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Which MB would be best to OC 8350 to 4.7-5.0ghz on custom water setup?

Poll Results: Which Motherboard would you get to get the best overclock on 8530?

Poll expired: Nov 30, 2012  
  • 0% (0)
    ASRock 990FX Extreme4
  • 25% (1)
    GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD7
  • 50% (2)
    asus sabertooth
  • 25% (1)
    asus ch5
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post #1 of 9
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First, I'd like to thank everyone here for any help you can provide. Admin, if this is in the wrong section, feel free to move it to the proper one.

Need some help to make a decision about which motherboard to get. I currently have a q6600@3.0ghz, 5970 stock, and 4gb of ram. I play BF3, and diablo 3. Currently, to keep the game from stuttering on large player # maps, I run bf3 in medium. I plan to give away ram, motherboard, and cpu to someone and keep the 5970, SSD, etc. For specs see signature.

I just bought two corsair m4 and running them in raid 0 on my current MB. I'm planning in the next year to purchase another one for raid 0. I did some research on intels latest chipsets and all of them only have two sata 3 ports that are Intel, the rest are Marvell. Marvell sucks at sata speeds and to top it off you can't do trim with raid, so that left me to steer towards the amd boards. Amd boards don't have trim either, but, they don't have the crappy marvel controllers or have SSD raid 0 booting issues from non Intel ports. Which brings me to purchase an AMD cpu and motherboard.

I'd like to buy a 3850 and a motherboard that will push it to 5ghz as a daily user. I game about 4-6 hours a day. I have two radiators and currently watercool my 5970 and q6600. I'd like to water cool the 8350 and 5970 and hopefully push it to the max.

I've been doing some research for weeks on which motherboards are able to push the 8350 to 4.8-5.0ghz. At the top of the list are the asus crosshair 5, asus sabertooth, and a couple of other ones.

Notes... I'm also not sure if I should go for 32Gb of ram using 4 slots, or only do 16. I was thinking of 32gb, and doing an 8GB ram drive for my swap file. (reduce the wear and tear on my ssd). The only reason for swap file on my current system is bf3. Everything else has no problems with swap file.

I also don't see myself doing the 2100 memory. Most people are saying that 1600 to 1833 is a good range. Everything else is overkill and overpriced.

I probably won't need more than 4 SATA III ports. I see 3-4 for SSD and one other for a Blue ray burner. I also probably need one usb 3.0 minimum, and one E-sata minimum.

I currently use a dtek fuzion v2 water cooling which I will also be putting on the 3850. I'd like to keep the board for at least 3-5 years, especially if you are recommending a $300+board.

I could care less about warranties below five years. I get my $$$ back from warranty claims with visa anyway, so it actually helps me upgrade.

Questions...
Which motherboard do you recommend? (if you don't have all the answers to the questions below, it's okay, just want to hear people's opinion so that I can narrow down my research.

Should I go for 16GB or 32GB of ram?

Am I going to have trouble with OC with 32GB?

Should I get 1600 or 1833 ram to help with OC?

Is the 5970 compatible with the board you are recommending?

Will I be able to buy another 5970 to boost my #'s?

Will running 2 ssd's in raid 0 cause problems with the board?

With my water cooling setup, will I be able to run this for 4-6 hours a day?

I'm currently staying at 1680x1050. Will there big a big difference when I move up to 1080P?
post #2 of 9
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Originally Posted by pcguru2000 View Post

Which motherboard do you recommend? (if you don't have all the answers to the questions below, it's okay, just want to hear people's opinion so that I can narrow down my research.
Should I go for 16GB or 32GB of ram?
Am I going to have trouble with OC with 32GB?
Should I get 1600 or 1833 ram to help with OC?
Is the 5970 compatible with the board you are recommending?
Will I be able to buy another 5970 to boost my #'s?
Will running 2 ssd's in raid 0 cause problems with the board?
With my water cooling setup, will I be able to run this for 4-6 hours a day?
I'm currently staying at 1680x1050. Will there big a big difference when I move up to 1080P?

What's your budget? Gigabytes 990FXA UD3, UD5, and UD7 are great if you can find Rev 1.1. The Sabertooth and CH V from Asus are excellent boards as well. There's a few people running AS Rock's Extreme 4 as well. I would personally get the UD3 if I were on a budget and a Sabertooth if I weren't.

16GB is probably overkill, especially for gaming. Most I've seen is 4.8 GB usage under BF3 in a large map.

1866Mhz

Yes, 5970 will work in CF. Even the $99 UD3 has dual x16 speed slots.

As long as you have adequate air flow inside your case, your mobo's VRM's will be able to handle as many hours as you can throw at them.
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post #3 of 9
I like the AsRock.. 990 Extreme as far which one.. that all depends how much money you are willing to spend.. Gigabyte has used up everything they learned from DFI and the quailty of ASUS and Gigabyte are losing their top board status while ASRock has been currently making better and better boards
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Crosshair V is best for overclocking AMD chips.
 
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post #5 of 9
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What's your budget? Gigabytes 990FXA UD3, UD5, and UD7 are great if you can find Rev 1.1. The Sabertooth and CH V from Asus are excellent boards as well. There's a few people running AS Rock's Extreme 4 as well. I would personally get the UD3 if I were on a budget and a Sabertooth if I weren't.
16GB is probably overkill, especially for gaming. Most I've seen is 4.8 GB usage under BF3 in a large map.
1866Mhz
Yes, 5970 will work in CF. Even the $99 UD3 has dual x16 speed slots.
As long as you have adequate air flow inside your case, your mobo's VRM's will be able to handle as many hours as you can throw at them.

My budget is $500 for both the board and the cpu. If I can save money, I can try to get a 3rd crucial m4 drive.

I guess I'll stick with 16gb. I assume two 8gb 1866mhz sticks. Any suggestions on what brand/model will help with overclock?
post #6 of 9
Crosshair V
post #7 of 9
Quote:
Should I go for 16GB or 32GB of ram?
Am I going to have trouble with OC with 32GB?
Should I get 1600 or 1833 ram to help with OC?
Is the 5970 compatible with the board you are recommending?
Will I be able to buy another 5970 to boost my #'s?
Will running 2 ssd's in raid 0 cause problems with the board?
With my water cooling setup, will I be able to run this for 4-6 hours a day?
I'm currently staying at 1680x1050. Will there big a big difference when I move up to 1080P?

1. 16GB is plenty unless you do VMWare or massive tasks. 8GB is fine for me for any task.
2. OC? No as long as you keep RAM at stock or rated speeds
3. RAM? I use 1333mhz and to be honest the jump to 1600mhz is fairly low and not signification compared to other components upgrades.
4. Any PCI-E graphics card is compatible with any board with a PCI-E x16 lane
5. Yup crossfire is good, BUT the power consumption on that thing will be monster. My suggestion? Wait till your card struggles and upgrade straight to the 7800/7900 series. Save yourself getting a new power supply and will cut down on power consumption and heat
6. Raid 0 no, but you may shorten your SSDs life in raid nor do I see any point having two SSDs anyway. SSD for the OS and primary programs and HDD for not used much programs is what I would do.
7. Water cooling, yes
8. 1080P? Your HD 5970 should handle that fine, if it doesn't as stated above I definitely recommend going to HD 7800/7900 series. A single HD 7870 will run whatever you throw at it at 1080p whilst consuming less power than dual HD 5970s and outputting less heat


Motherboard? As I said if you don't plan on dual monitors keep with a single card setup and go for a capable board.
Gigabyte 990XA-UD3
ASUS M5A99X EVO


My top board suggestions. If you aren't going to use the features 990FX offers it's pointless getting an expensive board with it.

990X chipset will do fine for the amount of SATA ports you need, whilst giving a fine overclock for your chip and will handle a single card setup fine.

Every chip is different, you may or may not be able to reach 5Ghz anyway, but the above boards could do it if your chip is capable of hitting that.
post #8 of 9
There isn't much difference between the CHV-Z and Sabertooth R2.0 that I've seen.

As far as RAM, you should be fine even with all DIMMs populated. I'd start off with 2x 8 GB and see if you need more, first.
I can push mine up through 2250 CL 9 on 4 sticks, for reference.

I wouldn't bother with another card at that resolution, upgrade your monitor first.
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post #9 of 9
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6. Raid 0 no, but you may shorten your SSDs life in raid nor do I see any point having two SSDs anyway. SSD for the OS and primary programs and HDD for not used much programs is what I would do.
Gigabyte 990XA-UD3
ASUS M5A99X EVO

Thanks for the reply. I believe that having drives in Raid 0 actually reduces the wear and tear. For each drive you add, you get less wear and tear on each do the data being read and written is spread to multiple drives. For example, if you are writing to 250 cells in a raid setup, instead of 250 cells being written on one drive, 125 is written to one and 125 to the other. This really boosts read, write, and access time. You should really try it! The bad side is if one drive fails, hello windows 7 reload. I'll take my chances. I was even thinking of going raid 5 with a new MB and an additional SSD. I think I would see a performance hit with three drives in raid 5 that would equal 2 drives in raid 0.

Anyway, thanks for the advice on the boards. I think I'm going for the ASUS M5a99FX pro R2.0 from newegg for $163.11 with tax and free shipping. Minus $10 rebate.When I did a compare, the only thing that stood out was that when you use crossfire, both cards drop to 8x on the x version, but on the FX version they both stay at 16X. I've read reviews that state 8X at PCIe 2.0 is adequate but what happens in 3 years. Maybe then, Crysis version 72 will be out and I'll be looking to buy 2 cards and crossfire at 16X will be important. ROFL. I've got the spare Juice on my power supply, it's 1000 watt corsair.I also overbought on capabilities, to hopefully guarantee that the next AMD chip that come out, or maybe the couple after, will still be compatible with my board.

Any thoughts on OC with this board? What about future compatibility?

I'm also thinking of sticking with the compatibility chart on this MB. According to Asus, this has been tested for 16gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220619 The specs on it are DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Timing 9-9-9-24.
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