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You can put the switch before the router if you have multiple static WAN IPs.

If this was the case, I'd prefer a dual WAN router.

It also depends on where the DHCP is running, if there is a hardware firewall etc.
    
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You wouldn't use a dual WAN router unless you have two separate connections. A simple multi-IP, single physical WAN setup with a switch after the gateway would be like this:

    
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Misread, sorry :-)

I thought it said dual link, not multiple IP's over a single link.
    
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As far as power, it's likely a lot lower than you think.
The file server in my sig idles at ~90w with all of the drives spinning (although it's still using a Sempron 45w TDP CPU). Writing data to them concurrently brings it up to 115w or so.

Are you using standard Cat5 or the Cat5E variant?
Where are you looking at for a box of cable and tools that is >$200?
My 1000' box of Cat5e with a crimper and jacks ended up about $65..

Also, for gigabit between hosts, what kind of drives are you currently transferring to/from?
Most LANs will be in a switched environment and modern CPUs have more than enough umph to push that sort of traffic through a non-offloaded NIC.
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As far as power, it's likely a lot lower than you think.
The file server in my sig idles at ~90w with all of the drives spinning (although it's still using a Sempron 45w TDP CPU). Writing data to them concurrently brings it up to 115w or so.
Are you using standard Cat5 or the Cat5E variant?
Where are you looking at for a box of cable and tools that is >$200?
My 1000' box of Cat5e with a crimper and jacks ended up about $65..
Also, for gigabit between hosts, what kind of drives are you currently transferring to/from?
Most LANs will be in a switched environment and modern CPUs have more than enough umph to push that sort of traffic through a non-offloaded NIC.

that idle is more down to the psu not being in its efficient range.

ive seen 65W APU's systems with a few hardiscs below 20w idle!

even a top end A10 100w trinity will idle at 27w but if you put a 500-600 psu in there then your idle will be 90w-100w dependent on certain variables.
best to get a small efficient psu at 150w and no more if power saving is the game.
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My SAN which has 4 x 7200RPM drives is fine off a 150 watt PSU...
    
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My SAN which has 4 x 7200RPM drives is fine off a 150 watt PSU...
I don't even think the recycled parts I have will run off a 150w PSU.... Phenom II X6 1090T, DDR3 RAM, NIC, IBM M1015 JBOD.... Yah I could put in an R-pi or atom processor and draw mega low watts, but that won't help me when I install MythTV, or try to DLNA stream to multiple devices while running SAMBA and an SFTP client or VPN. So to each his own. But I do understand your agony when seeing such a large PSU for a home server.

Also, the main thing that is sucking power here, that I HAVE NOT MENTIONED: is I am recycling a MB and CPU.... that have run 24/7 for over 2 years with voltages in the pink to red (way past blue and past yellow). So when you factor in the capacitor aging from this old 24/7 torrent server build with the Phenom II X6 @ 1.5v and the DDR3 @ 1.7v, and the North Bridge at 1.25v+ .... while all the settings were at "manual" for stability so it NEVER down-clocked... you begin to see I really do need to estimate 30% capacitor aging among making sure I get a powerful enough psu to keep the voltage regulation in check. I know cap-aging is usually for psu's, but I never tested the current draw on this MB/CPU especially with worn transistors & the psu calculators tell me [min = 450w].


Well I just completed my test build install on an old dell 4500 - DLNA, SAMBA, & a ton of other stuff. Works great, so I'm about to start buying parts.

How do I get HDDs from different batches? I know it's asking for trouble to combine 6x or 8x HDDs of the same type in a RAID because of probable failure at the same time. Buy 2 from Amazon.com, 2 from newegg, 2 from tiger direct, etc? Or should I mix and match seagate barracudas with wd reds?

And if anyone has some coupons or promo codes they want to send my way - I would appreciate it. Looking for the best way to get cheap 3TB (non-green) HDDs.


I ordered 1x Intel NIC off newegg to test & because usually 2 days after an order they send me a bunch of coupons. So I'm hoping that rings true again & I can buy most of the stuff next week. But the prices right now are not looking nearly as fun as they did a week ago. xD

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True, your parts won't run on that little especially if they had a hard life

My file box is an AMD Turion all in one mobo (see sig) which is how it runs on so little.

Regarding HDD batch numbers, don't buy online, go into a store, look at the drives and get different batches (usually the batch number is the first part of the serial), that's how I do it.

With your HDD's, never mix brands. Even worse, never mix spindle speeds or cache sizes (unless the RAID controller disables caching)

PS: PSU's are most efficient at 90% load, so consider a smaller unit :-)
    
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...or it may say something like Q4'12 to indicate which production run it was in.
    
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@dushan24

What's the issue with mixing brands? As long as they are the same capacity and spindle speed, what's the issue apart from having to deal with two companies come RMA time?
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