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Originally Posted by The-Beast View Post

AMD is the clear winning this generation. Nvidia priced themselves out of competition. Can find a 7970 for 300-330 compared to 400-450 for the 680 and the 7970 is the better performing card.

That's perhaps correct as the enthusiast's point of view at this point in time.

But last time numbers were released, Nvidia was maintaining it's 60% share of the discrete gpu market.

In all the months before 12.11 was released, Nvidia was selling it's cards for near release price. Meanwhile, AMD kept dropping their prices.

AMD is currently making a lot less money off a "superior" card. That's good for us as enthusiasts but bad for the company in general.

The next generation is going to interesting indeed. I don't think Nvidia will be able to get away with what they did this generation again.
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Nvidia is using gk104 which suppose to be mid range card disguise as the flagship card.So no way it can be good,at least for this generation.Flagship to flagship,7970 is better,at least it have higher bandwidth and vram.But gtx 680 is running cooler than the 7970.

:DThere no best graphic card,because there only getting better.So have fun with both party!!biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

That's perhaps correct as the enthusiast's point of view at this point in time.
But last time numbers were released, Nvidia was maintaining it's 60% share of the discrete gpu market.
In all the months before 12.11 was released, Nvidia was selling it's cards for near release price. Meanwhile, AMD kept dropping their prices.
AMD is currently making a lot less money off a "superior" card. That's good for us as enthusiasts but bad for the company in general.
The next generation is going to interesting indeed. I don't think Nvidia will be able to get away with what they did this generation again.

With the whole Greenlight Program which is likely to carry on into the Nvidia's 700 Series, enthusiasts are going to be far more relunctant to hand over their cash so easily like their used to doing with Nvidia products. I know i will be next time and i'm a huge Nvidia fan....
 
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Why is everyone saying 680s overclock to at least 1128 stock boost? That's complete lies, neither of my 680s boosted past 1105mhz at default clocks
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Originally Posted by y2kcamaross View Post

Why is everyone saying 680s overclock to at least 1128 stock boost? That's complete lies, neither of my 680s boosted past 1105mhz at default clocks

Most GTX680's have a Boost Clock of between 1056Mhz and upto 1150Mhz (my 4x 680's all had 1110Mhz out of the box). Overclocking wise (at default volts) they won't push beyond 1200. Not many cards do....without a voltage increase. AMD have a serious advantage in this area now....
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Nvidia is using gk104 which suppose to be mid range card disguise as the flagship card.

This has been talked about to death.

GK104 IS nVIDIA's flagship. Why? Because they couldn't manufacture GK110, thus that makes 104 their most powerful die in the consumer sector.


And AMD is indeed better than nVIDIA, there's no tradeoffs in getting an AMD card besides the 40-50W higher power consumption. They are faster in gaming, and leaps and bounds more powerful in computing (not 20-30%, but several times faster).
   
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post #87 of 252
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Originally Posted by Mhill2029 View Post

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That's perhaps correct as the enthusiast's point of view at this point in time.
But last time numbers were released, Nvidia was maintaining it's 60% share of the discrete gpu market.
In all the months before 12.11 was released, Nvidia was selling it's cards for near release price. Meanwhile, AMD kept dropping their prices.
AMD is currently making a lot less money off a "superior" card. That's good for us as enthusiasts but bad for the company in general.
The next generation is going to interesting indeed. I don't think Nvidia will be able to get away with what they did this generation again.

With the whole Greenlight Program which is likely to carry on into the Nvidia's 700 Series, enthusiasts are going to be far more relunctant to hand over their cash so easily like their used to doing with Nvidia products. I know i will be next time and i'm a huge Nvidia fan....

I am a huge fan as well, and just as reluctant as you are. I'm in a decent position with my 680 Lightnings, I'll be able to overclock if need be so that I'll be content for a while so I can sit back and see releases from both sides, and maybe a price-drop, before I decide. Next series will be the first releases that I'll sit back and have to decide, instead of just automatically going with the GTXx80 wink.gif
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And AMD is indeed better than nVIDIA, there's no tradeoffs in getting an AMD card besides the 40-50W higher power consumption.

For the most part, yes. Not in all cases though. Especially for open source. Generally on linux the nvidia binary drivers are better overall and work better with WINE, not to mention the fact that there is no radeon driver for BSD where there is for nvidia. That is the whole reason I am looking to get rid of my 7950 for a 660 ti/670. Even though I know the 7950 is better overall, I don't use Windows and I like to use BSD/linux.
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This has been talked about to death.
GK104 IS nVIDIA's flagship. Why? Because they couldn't manufacture GK110, thus that makes 104 their most powerful die in the consumer sector.
And AMD is indeed better than nVIDIA, there's no tradeoffs in getting an AMD card besides the 40-50W higher power consumption. They are faster in gaming, and leaps and bounds more powerful in computing (not 20-30%, but several times faster).
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The term flagship is also used to describe the top or main product from a manufacturer.
Considering there is no GK110, it isn't the main, or top product. So no, GK110 is not nvidias flagship product, its not even a product (when it comes to desktop cards).

So yea, nvidias flagship can be the 680, or rainbows and fairytales, depending on what your position is.
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I literally just switched from 680s to 7970s, nvidia drivers IMO are just flatout better, I also think the nvidia control panel is better as well, but my 7970s are faster
How? Have you had a driver issue?
Also, see sig if microstutter is an issue.
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