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Originally Posted by beastmith View Post

Do you have settings for non-LB?
Try these. seems to dial the colors back a bit and provide a decent black level.

Panel:
standard mode
brightness 20
contrast 80
color temp user mode
RGB 85 77 76
smartview off
trace 80

For me, this is a substantial improvement over the out of box settings.
Edited by McMarcus22 - 2/3/13 at 7:12am
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CallsignVega if you do start making AG removal business, would you consider selling just the M3 Glossy protector to those that want to make the mod themself?
I imagine you could order more M3 protector and get better bulk discount smile.gif

Also on a level of 1-10 how glossy does a display get after removing the AG and having a naked polarizer?

I think S23A700D is a 8.5(?!) out of 10 on glossiness?

Edit---> So the XL2411t and this Asus are Equal?
Then I can buy the XL2411t here in Europe?
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Try these. seems to dial the colors back a bit and provide a decent black level.

Panel:
standard mode
brightness 20
contrast 80
color temp user mode
RGB 85 77 76
smartview off
trace 80

Nvidia control panel:
digital vibrance 60

For me, this is a substantial improvement over the out of box settings.

These settings look horrible for me, brightness at 20, is so dim, I had to bump it up to 100. I took a picture of both of my monitors next to each other and its weird. My old monitor is a Gateway FHD2400 24" @ 1920x1200. It is significantly bigger than this new monitor obviously due to the 16:9 compared to 16:10. The difference though is like looking at a 5'10 guy standing next to a 6'1 guy, even though they are both as wide. The FHD2400 looks so much better with its colors it is startling. I feel like this monitor has the color of an aspirin left in a watery puddle on your sink.

The motion difference is absolutely ******* INSANE! I can't ever go back now, yet this monitor looks horrible! The dilemma is clear, the motion blur reduction wins, hands down. But **** my life, is this improvable or is this just the reality. The pic is on my phone, which is probably not even worth loading, makes no sense.

Time to go play some games and see if that is as mind blowing as moving around icons on my screen. I drag it back over my old monitor desktop and it looks laggy. Such a difference.
Edited by experttact - 2/2/13 at 4:59pm
post #394 of 2231
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Originally Posted by grandpatzer View Post

CallsignVega if you do start making AG removal business, would you consider selling just the M3 Glossy protector to those that want to make the mod themself?
I imagine you could order more M3 protector and get better bulk discount smile.gif

Also on a level of 1-10 how glossy does a display get after removing the AG and having a naked polarizer?

I think S23A700D is a 8.5(?!) out of 10 on glossiness?

Edit---> So the XL2411t and this Asus are Equal?
Then I can buy the XL2411t here in Europe?

Yes, but you must remember the environment done must be very clean. Any adhesive glossy film once the backing is removed will pick up all dust/contaminants in the air and on the surface you are applying it to. It is very easy to see trapped contaminates underneath a gloss layer. Since you will be adhering the gloss directly to the exposed polarizer and you cannot use the moisture method of matte AR removal on the gloss layer, it is 100% permanent along with anything trapped underneath. If you try and remove the gloss layer by force/pulling on it the polarizer will be destroyed.

It's fairly glossy, maybe around a 8-9, with a 10 being something like the Apple 27". The 11T and this Asus use identical panels. Really the only difference between the two panels in LB mode is the Asus has the "Game-Plus" feature that BenQ does not.

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Originally Posted by experttact View Post

These settings look horrible for me, brightness at 20, is so dim, I had to bump it up to 100. I took a picture of both of my monitors next to each other and its weird. My old monitor is a Gateway FHD2400 24" @ 1920x1200. It is significantly bigger than this new monitor obviously due to the 16:9 compared to 16:10. The different though is like looking at a 5'10 guy standing next to a 6'1 guy, even though they are both as wide. The FHD2400 looks so much better with its colors it is startling. I feel like this monitor has the color of an aspirin left in a watery puddle on your sink.

The motion difference is absolutely ******* INSANE! I can't ever go back now, yet this monitor looks horrible! The dilemma is clear, the motion blur reduction wins, hands down. But **** my life, is this improvable or is this just the reality. The pic is on my phone, which is probably not even worth loading, makes no sense.

Time to go play some games and see if that is as mind blowing as moving around icons on my screen. I drag it back over my old monitor desktop and it looks laggy. Such a difference.

Yes, any matte TN panel will look like garbage next to something like a glossy IPS. It's the price you pay for good motion clarity. mad.gif

The funny thing is, the Samsung gloss TN panels actually look quite good. Hence why I am so interested in converting my Asus.
Edited by CallsignVega - 2/2/13 at 5:02pm
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Yes, but you must remember the environment done must be very clean. Any adhesive glossy film once the backing is removed will pick up all dust/contaminants in the air and on the surface you are applying it to. It is very easy to see trapped contaminates underneath a gloss layer. Since you will be adhering the gloss directly to the exposed polarizer and you cannot use the moisture method of matte AR removal on the gloss layer, it is 100% permanent along with anything trapped underneath. If you try and remove the gloss layer by force/pulling on it the polarizer will be destroyed.

It's fairly glossy, maybe around a 8-9, with a 10 being something like the Apple 27". The 11T and this Asus use identical panels. Really the only difference between the two panels in LB mode is the Asus has the "Game-Plus" feature that BenQ does not.
Yes, any matte TN panel will look like garbage next to something like a glossy IPS. It's the price you pay for good motion clarity. mad.gif

The funny thing is, the Samsung gloss TN panels actually look quite good. Hence why I am so interested in converting my Asus.

yes Samsung gloss TN is nice, I own a S23A700D and honestly the ImageQuality is comparable to my IPS (Dell U2311 panel).

So if a Apple 27" is a 10/10 glossiness and the M3 protector is 8/10 or 9/10, what would a S23A700D be?

If the XL2411t and this Asus are comparable IQ to the S23A700D I can justifie the expense, but honestly I don't want to downgrade too much on IQ and colors etc.

Is there any modification I can make to my S23A700D to decrease the 12-13ms inputlag?
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I just got the VG248qe a few days ago and been testing it thoroughly.

With lightboost @ 120hz over DL-DVI during the PixPerAn readability test I can pass at a tempo of 24 after that my eyes just can't keep up. biggrin.gif

without Lightboost @ 144hz over DP during the same test I can only pass a tempo of 7, at 8 the letters are so blurred I cannot read anything.
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I've had mine for a day now, still working out the trouble with the colors.

Another issue, and quite a pesky one, does anyone else have a static death screen problem when viewing Adobe Flash Player vids, particularly Amazon Instant vids at 144hz? As soon as I boot up a vid on Amazon (none of my other players that I've tested suffer this issue) the screen goes to complete static, nothing is visible but volume is still unaffected. I tested refresh rate to all available settings below 144hz and the problem clears up, it's only at 144.

Anyone have any input or encountered this yet?
I ran into the same problem too watching flash Amazon Prime Videos. The video on 144 Hz causes the screen to flicker and then go completely static. I actually bought two of these monitors and I can set one to 120Hz and play the video on that screen fine. But switching the video to the other 144Hz monitor causes that monitor to turn into static. I tried different browsers and same result.

I don't have this problem with YouTube. I'm guessing there is some kind of copy protection for the Amazon videos that doesn't play nice with the 144Hz. How does Netflix do? Is that still Silverlight on PC?
Edited by THizzle7XU - 2/2/13 at 5:22pm
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Hey how is it going guys ! thumb.gif

Just wanted to check in with you guys. The monitor is amazing! I just love it, really do. I'm so glad I joined this Forums, it has being awesome discussing the monitor after so long and to finally have it here is amazing. This is my favorite forums thumbsupsmiley.png


I'm running this monitor with pretty much out the box settings, I haven't had the need for Lightboost hack or anything else. I just plugged in my DVI, selected 144hz and jumped in, and being loving it ever since.

By the way, I set the the Youtube Video I made of the Asus VG to "Private" because of all the complaints lol.
Edited by EpicSurvivor - 2/2/13 at 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by grandpatzer View Post

yes Samsung gloss TN is nice, I own a S23A700D and honestly the ImageQuality is comparable to my IPS (Dell U2311 panel).

So if a Apple 27" is a 10/10 glossiness and the M3 protector is 8/10 or 9/10, what would a S23A700D be?

If the XL2411t and this Asus are comparable IQ to the S23A700D I can justifie the expense, but honestly I don't want to downgrade too much on IQ and colors etc.

Is there any modification I can make to my S23A700D to decrease the 12-13ms inputlag?

700D is around an 8.

No, the 11T and QE do not have comparable image quality to the 700D due largely to having a matte film. Reason why I am converting. If I can get the QE to look similar to the Samsung Ultra-clear line like the 700D, it will be a huge win (remember gloss not only increases panel image quality it also increases light output, something that is need in LB monitors). That will narrow the gap in image quality and make the resolution trade-off with a 1440P IPS panel more palatable for the wonderful motion clarity.

No on the 700D input lag.

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Originally Posted by bebimbap View Post

I just got the VG248qe a few days ago and been testing it thoroughly.

With lightboost @ 120hz over DL-DVI during the PixPerAn readability test I can pass at a tempo of 24 after that my eyes just can't keep up. biggrin.gif

without Lightboost @ 144hz over DP during the same test I can only pass a tempo of 7, at 8 the letters are so blurred I cannot read anything.

In order to read fast Pixperan, you have to move both your head and eyes in order to track that fast. As for non-LB mode, yes you will see blur. The fastest I've ever seen someone claim to read is 12 on any LCD non-LB. The fastest I've personally would call readable on the myriad of monitors I've tested (non-LB once again) was around ~10.
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Would the Benq GW2460HM (A-MVA, 1920 x 1080, 4 ms, PMW free) be good for both
speed and color/contrast?
http://www.benq.com/product/monitor/gw2460hm
Edited by glenster - 2/2/13 at 7:23pm
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