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Yeah, if you're having problems with the brightness I'd suggest leaving it at like 20-30 and turn down the brightness in your drivers control panel. That also helps with the washed out colors.
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It seems that the Asus VG248QE that most are buying this monitor for it's very fast response time and low input lag, but as far as IQ goes it just sucks! I'm surprised member's are willing to sacrifice the IQ just to get fast motion handling, if people are willing to buy crap Asus will continue to sell crap.

The Asus VG236H 23" scored a lot better than the VG248QE, colors were right on the money and IQ was great, almost forgot it's not even an LED monitor! Imagine if everyone stayed clear of the Asus VG248QE like a plague, perhaps Asus would think twice next time before releasing a sub-standard gaming monitor with poor IQ.

Just food for thought. smile.gif

Looks like folks gave you the wrong impression, there is nothing wrong with the colours of the monitor, the only issue is that it is TN, and matte, and it behaves like any TN matte screen that I have used.

Most people here are coming from glossy or IPS screens. Also the colours are quite different with the lightboost tweak, that is something other monitors can't do anyway so is not like a disadvantage of the monitor itself.
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It seems that the Asus VG248QE that most are buying this monitor for it's very fast response time and low input lag, but as far as IQ goes it just sucks! I'm surprised member's are willing to sacrifice the IQ just to get fast motion handling, if people are willing to buy crap Asus will continue to sell crap.

The Asus VG236H 23" scored a lot better than the VG248QE, colors were right on the money and IQ was great, almost forgot it's not even an LED monitor! Imagine if everyone stayed clear of the Asus VG248QE like a plague, perhaps Asus would think twice next time before releasing a sub-standard gaming monitor with poor IQ.

Just food for thought. smile.gif


I don't really care. It's a gaming monitor and it serves that purpose exceptionally well.

Edit: Like I said, I'm coming from a 700D. A TN with well above and comparable IQ to the VG236H. For me, this IS a well deserved upgrade. It isn't fun playing on a monitor with signal latency higher than the refresh -.-.
Edited by Skylit - 2/9/13 at 12:26am
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Just to let folks know I will be receiving the VG248QE on Monday and will be providing a thorough review on PCMonitors.info. We will be very thoroughly looking at the different presets and OSD settings and seeing how gamma and white point are affected in the calibration section.

I also hope to provide some downloadable ICC profiles based on a S4E calibration for both AMD and Nvidia users. Because games like to use their own gamma curves and some ignore or misinterpret ICC data I will only be testing the monitor's colour and contrast performance using the naked OSD settings. I know some people like to use ICC profiles for desktop viewing if the image isn't satisfying to them without, so these could help a bit with this one. Obviously these won't be perfect for everyone as each monitor is different. smile.gif
Edited by PCM2 - 2/9/13 at 1:02am
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Looks like folks gave you the wrong impression, there is nothing wrong with the colours of the monitor, the only issue is that it is TN, and matte, and it behaves like any TN matte screen that I have used.

Most people here are coming from glossy or IPS screens. Also the colours are quite different with the lightboost tweak, that is something other monitors can't do anyway so is not like a disadvantage of the monitor itself.

I have been using a glossy (Opticlear) NEC TN 19" LCD for 7-8 years, the 8ms response time may not be the absolute best but the colors, clarity and IQ are top notch for a TN panel! I paid $600 for it back then at BB!
Edited by Systemlord - 2/9/13 at 1:04am
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Launch a game with 3d enabled, hit ctrl t, alt tab out, turn 3D off in nvidia control panel, relaunch TF2. monitor should be in lightboost mode permanently and not have a 120fps cap

When you do this, should it still say you are in 3D mode when you play around with the monitor buttons while in game?
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Well I decided to pick this monitor up this week due to the awesome specs but I guess its too good to be true. The colors out the box are LOL status. There is major bleeding even with brightness at zero. Its very frustrating trying to calibrate it because its a little high on the blue side but when you lower that the red really comes out. My viewsonic vx2268wm is much easier to look at. I almost want to return this and absorb the restock fee.
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Just to let folks know I will be receiving the VG248QE on Monday and will be providing a thorough review on PCMonitors.info. We will be very thoroughly looking at the different presets and OSD settings and seeing how gamma and white point are affected in the calibration section.

I also hope to provide some downloadable ICC profiles based on a S4E calibration for both AMD and Nvidia users. Because games like to use their own gamma curves and some ignore or misinterpret ICC data I will only be testing the monitor's colour and contrast performance using the naked OSD settings. I know some people like to use ICC profiles for desktop viewing if the image isn't satisfying to them without, so these could help a bit with this one. Obviously these won't be perfect for everyone as each monitor is different. smile.gif

Will be waiting for that review.. good luck with the naked OSD settings it really is that bad.
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LB 2D is really impressive. It's like playing on a 120hz CRT, colors and black levels aside. Of course you'll need to be able to maintain near 120 fps (even higher is better) to really get the best effect out of it, but if you can then you'll have incredibly clear, smooth motion. I have LB on right now at the desktop and I can read entire forum posts while moving the window around, it's that clear.

I believe that the VG248QE and XL2411T are the top performers from everything I've read. The XL2411T is supposedly the exact same panel. They both have an extremely short stobe time (1.4ms) and are the only 1ms GTG-rated monitors out there at the moment. What that means is that you'll minimize ghosting of previous frames and blur. I believe the XL2420T is an older model that has a 2ms strobe and rated GTG time, however the XL2411T seems to be difficult to locate depending on where you live.

The fact that I'm having backlight bleed problems and still recommending this monitor should tell you how good the LB motion is. I can't specifically speak about measured input lag, but it feels nonexistent. It's definitely better than my 1440 IPS, but part of that is just down to 120fps vs 60fps. At 60fps, even with 0 processing lag (impossible) you can still have to wait up to 16ms if you hit a key just after a frame renders (because a new frame won't be ready until 16ms later). At 120fps, the potential frame lag is down to 8ms. Processing lag is an unknown until someone actually tests it.
I agree that it's insanely bright in a fairly dark room. At 0 it would still be pretty stressful to the eyes without some lighting to balance it out. And at any of the lower brightness settings (0-30) I find the BLB to be extremely minimal, as in I have to actually hunt for it to find it. If I go above 30 it starts to become more apparent. I have an old TN Dell monitor I put side by side with this one for comparison, and a setting of about 30 is equivalent to 100 on the other monitor, so for all I know every TN panel monitor would bleed if it had a sufficiently bright BL.

It's not actually caused by LB, but unfortunately LB only operates with the backlight at maximum. You can turn down the "LightBoost" setting but this only decreases the length of the pulse (lower is better for cleaner motion), so you're still getting hit by super bright pulses that will apparently expose any BLB the monitor has. I could also just have a particularly bad panel, which is why I'm trying to get some feedback from other owners.

Lightboost Supported Monitors: ASUS VG248QE*, BENQ XL2411T*, ASUS VG278H, ASUS VG278HE, BENQ XL2420T, Acer HN274H.

What monitor would you guys recommend in terms of IQ/Price? How does this monitor compare to the Benq one?
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