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@bebimbap (or anyone else that has both IPS and this)

I just built a new PC and I'm in the market for a new monitor. This is probably the most difficult decision of all my components (i3570k, with 7870xt gpu, for reference). I've been looking at the 23/2412 by dell, the Auria EQ276W, and the 25/2711x series by HP. I don't tend to play FPS (when I do it's on console). I play MMOs mostly, though I might get BF3 and a PC controller in the near future. Since you're using both varieties of monitors, where would you say I should head? Will the 144hz benefit me more than the color when it comes to my enjoyment of games like FFXIV:ARR, and WoW type games? Thanks for your help.

IPS mate, not gonna lie to you but you don't really need what this monitor offers. Sure it's real smooth, but if I played MMOs and RPGs I'd stick with the advantages of IPS definitely. And BF3 is just so hard to run at high frames so if you don't play CS or other super fast FPS you won't benefit that much.

Smoothness is still nice but IPS is so much better in viewing angles, uniformity, gamma, colour range, etc. Unless you are a very very competitive fast paced gamer playing such games and wants every speed advantage and super smooth motion
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IPS mate, not gonna lie to you but you don't really need what this monitor offers. Sure it's real smooth, but if I played MMOs and RPGs I'd stick with the advantages of IPS definitely. And BF3 is just so hard to run at high frames so if you don't play CS or other super fast FPS you won't benefit that much.

Smoothness is still nice but IPS is so much better in viewing angles, uniformity, gamma, colour range, etc. Unless you are a very very competitive fast paced gamer playing such games and wants every speed advantage and super smooth motion

What if I'm extremely competitive when in comes to PVP within MMOs? Any benefit to 120hz there (probably not)? I have a realistic budget of $400, but would prefer under $300. I'm just looking at the best possible gaming experience. I do notice stuttering, and delay while watching movies on my LED vs my Plasmas (both high quality), and it bothers the hell out of me. But I still love watching them on my JVC projector the most (it's imersive, but picture quality pales in comparison to my panny, but it's 104" so... ) I guess I'm looking for overall performance more than anything. I haven't even put my PC through the paces yet as I don't have a new monitor. It's kinda like the crown I need before sitting in the throne. I like a pretty picture as much as the next person, but I do like smoothness as well. This is where my problem begins.

I've seen several of these monitors at microcenter, but just having a blue screen with a yellow fish isn't enough for me to decide upon a monitor. Hell, I thought the HP 2511x looked better than most monitors there. The only monitor that had a different picture was the U2412, so I couldn't even evaluate them equally.

O'well, 120hz IPS will probably come out by the time I make a decision.....
Edited by Eyeage - 2/15/13 at 12:45am
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Don't hold your breath for 120Hz IPS...

I'm not super hard-core competitive with FPS games online, though I do like a good FPS. I even think 120/144Hz is worth it for using the desktop dragging windows around or using smooth scroll in Chrome. SO smooth! Even finding the mouse pointer quickly on a white screen by moving it is way easier in 120Hz vs 60.
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I would like to see some 120hz IPS monitors come onto market! Guess they would be pretty pricey though rolleyes.gif
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I would like to see some 120hz IPS monitors come onto market! Guess they would be pretty pricey though rolleyes.gif

I would also love to see some 120Hz IPS screens in production but it is not going to happen any time soon. 120Hz is too much of a niche market. Normal people just have no clue.
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Don't hold your breath for 120Hz IPS...

Was tongue-in-cheek
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And BF3 is just so hard to run at high frames
Not really... most of the time I'm above 120 and all I have is a 7870.
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Aah, 120hz IPS...the fake holy grail of forums.

Just because you smash 120hz and IPS together, it won't in itself solve some fundamental problems that IPS has vs TN, and make it as fast as a 120+hz TN panel. Like the racing car analogy used earlier, a hybrid limousine/racing car, still won't be as comfy as a limousine nor as fast as a racing car. The vg248qe is meant to push the racing car envelope aspect.
That said, IPS monitors are getting faster, and the colours on TN panels are getting better(s23a750).

So here is how I think one can look at the problem: IPS/1440p or TN/144hz.
OFC the absolute best would be to try it out irl. But if this is not an option, I can assume that everybody in this dilemma has owned a 60hz TN panel.
Take it from there, and ask yourself if you'd like max responsiveness and fluidity, or the best colours and the sharpest image. Or if you can contend with a hybrid solution, like the catleap 120+hz IPS, but which won't be as good as a full-fledged solution.
It's that simple! And only you know which one is going to satisfy you the most.


And Folks, the real pc monitor holy grail is OLED thumb.gif
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Vibrancy doesn't equate to better color.

usually TN panels can only display about 70% color gamut, while IPS depending on back light can display 130% or more.
while color range is important for better color, that's not the end of it.

Then there is color accuracy. If the display is supposed to show a certain color but can't or shows it incorrectly that is not "good color"

The Asus has trouble showing accurate colors vs IPS counterparts, but you can over saturate them to make it look better for the WOW factor or "eye candy"
the VG248QE has sacrificed much in terms of color accuracy, uniformity, black levels, viewing angles to obtain 1ms response. But people that have bought this monitor knew this before buying it understand it was a worthy trade off for the 1ms response

yes but i dont care about color accuracy, i'm not business man, i'm a normal desktop user and the vibrancy colors for me cant be correct but wonderful for eyes and the uniformity and black deep not depends by TN, many IPS have evident backlight bleeding or crap contrast and IPS glow, while speaking about viewing angle, i look my monitor in center.
Windows permit to show only 8bit for channel to cover gamut, the IPS whit highter value cant be show it fully.
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yes but i dont care about color accuracy, i'm not business man, i'm a normal desktop user and the vibrancy colors for me cant be correct but wonderful for eyes and the uniformity and black deep not depends by TN, many IPS have evident backlight bleeding or crap contrast and IPS glow, while speaking about viewing angle, i look my monitor in center.
Windows permit to show only 8bit for channel to cover gamut, the IPS whit highter value cant be show it fully.

Sorry but it is well know that IPS is much better than any TN panel in terms of image, even if you like vibrancy and oversaturation TN really doesn't compare. Whether you want accurate colours or good looking colours regardless. TNs have backlight bleed as well - regardless of backlight bleed the blacks and black scenes on IPS are far deeper and better looking and clearer than anything a TN can do. And even if you "look your monitor in centre" you can't deny the terrible panel uniformity of TN technology - the viewing angles are SO bad that the top of the screen has a different hue to the centre and bottom. Just load up this test and see what I mean: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php

Also just in case you haven't actually tried an IPS then anything you say has absolutely zero credibility, just want to point that out thumb.gif
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