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post #11 of 33
If it works for him, AWESOME...

If no one else does it, or tries it to see if it works for them, what's the point of "theorizing?"
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post #12 of 33
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Lets say in your car, the intake tubing for your water cooled engine is wrapped around or very near your headers. You are heating up water you had just cooled with your radiator, and causing an innefficient heat exchange. Now, if you have heat shields, or even insulate the headers themselves, you no longer have the heat effecting the intake side of the water system.
    
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I'll tell you what, I'll run some tests with only the intake for the block insulated, and leave the exhaust tubing bare, to join both views, and it may be even better. Thanks for the ideas and comments guys. I'll post back with some results.
    
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post #14 of 33
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I think you guys may be missing the point. How many of you have your tubing passing somewhere near your GPU or Northbridge? And, regardless of your cases ambient temps, to radiate that heat into the case will only increase your overall operating temp. Keep in mind you only insulate the tubing inside the case, not out to the radiator or pump. This would definitely not work on a completely internal water kit, but I guess I should have made that more clear. Unfortunately, my only option is to have my tubing follow over my Northbridge and top of my video card, so maybe it only makes sense for me. Thanks for the input guys.

Yeah, I only WC my CPU and all my tubing is hanging in the breeze and my rad's on the back of my case... I see what you mean now...EDIT: Hey that's great I would like to see your results....
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post #15 of 33
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You need to read up a bit. When your tubing is close to the intake line for the block, and is under load, many people 80-100C on load with the gpu, and this heat is transferred to the water which is passing into the block, which you just so happened to try and cool to the room temperature where you computer is located. It's like holding a lighter 2 inches from your tubing. And yes duck boy, people care about their temps all over, not just cpu/gpu...
CPU/GPU temp importance >>> other components. CPU and GPU temperatures are vastly more important than any other temperature in your PC. Lower PWM or chipset does not yeild better performance as long as they are in the nominal range. As long as all your other components are at nominal temps... their impact is extremely minimal in terms of performance or stability. Basically no point.

Ahhh... so you are trying to stop heat radiating from a block from entering the loop at a further point? Hm, I think you need to do reading up on watercooling. First, the waterflow is so rapid and water temperature delta so low... this does not matter. Second, the heat from the CPU enter at the water block is NOT the same unit of heat radiate from the waterblock. Holding a lighter near a tube is introducing a new source of heat into a system. Running tube near a waterblock does not matter since the entire watercooling rig is suppose to remove heat from that source.

It is not simple guessing... it basic thermal dynamics. I can diagram it if need be...
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post #16 of 33
Probley depend's what type of tubing your using to make a differance.
I'm not insulating my PrimoFlex it's thick wall tubing, I don't think it's worth the trouble.
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post #17 of 33
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CPU/GPU temp importance >>> other components. CPU and GPU temperatures are vastly more important than any other temperature in your PC. Lower PWM or chipset does not yeild better performance as long as they are in the nominal range. As long as all your other components are at nominal temps... their impact is extremely minimal in terms of performance or stability. Basically no point.

Ahhh... so you are trying to stop heat radiating from a block from entering the loop at a further point? Hm, I think you need to do reading up on watercooling. First, the waterflow is so rapid and water temperature delta so low... this does not matter. Second, the heat from the CPU enter at the water block is NOT the same unit of heat radiate from the waterblock. Holding a lighter near a tube is introducing a new source of heat into a system. Running tube near a waterblock does not matter since the entire watercooling rig is suppose to remove heat from that source.

It is not simple guessing... it basic thermal dynamics. I can diagram it if need be...
Unfortunately I don't think I'm communicating the idea clear enough. What I'm trying to prevent is the radiation from other hot sources effecting the intake of the cooler water as it enters the block. And when I said read up, I meant my posts. And the lighter comment was meant to help you understand how my NB effects my intake coolant. I don't suggest taking a lighter into your case, but hey, at your own risk.
    
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post #18 of 33
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Unfortunately I don't think I'm communicating the idea clear enough. What I'm trying to prevent is the radiation from other hot sources effecting the intake of the cooler water as it enters the block. And when I said read up, I meant my posts. And the lighter comment was meant to help you understand how my NB effects my intake coolant. I don't suggest taking a lighter into your case, but hey, at your own risk.
Ahhh... I still doubt much of an impact. Here's a simple experiment to test theory... get a blow dryer and point it to a section of tubing. Turn it on and start heating up the area. Please please.... Don't hold it too close or melt your tubing. In any case, the blow dryer is putting out magnitudes more directed heat than your NB or any other component. Check your temps and see if they increase.
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I'm sure with a blow dryer they would. Maybe it's because I have a mid tower and due to the cramped situation, not sure. But my components are so close to my tubing. Tried to space them back towards the side panel, but no luck, only increased the length of my loop. I'm hoping someone else will try the insulation on the intake side to see if there is a difference, as a cross examination.
    
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Post a picture of your loop and maybe we can offer some ideas on reducing tubing.

I will test with the blow dryer later this evening.
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