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I've just been wondering a little bit lately. I've read in the PC world that AMD hasn't been doing very well as of lately, especially in the CPU area.

I remember reading an article about AMD maybe selling the company to Samsung or Intel or Google or what the hell ever else was mentioned. I can't exactly recall everything atm.

In the GPU world it seems to me as though AMD/ATI is able to hold their own. I'm just wondering, is anyone else concerned about AMD being sold to another company? I must honestly admit, what concerns me the most here is monopolization. When it comes to intel you can already see that AMD is being trampled. The last thing i would like to see is this happening in the GPU market as well. If there's one thing i fear, it's that we end up with a single manufacturer in future such as Nvidia. Then again, that's why i'm starting a discussion here, maybe the one or the other is more informed or more experienced and could shed some light into this topic. Maybe i'm talking complete rubbish - i'd be happy if i am.

I've ordered a graphic card upgrade for my PC, this time it shall be coming from ATI. Even if i should turn out disappointing at the performance, i'll still be happy i payed. Nothing's more important than competition IMO.

Do you think AMD will come to an end? What if another company takes over AMD, do you think a company, such as Google for instance or Samsung would be able to make even better use of the company and improve Graphic Cards / GPU even further and still be competitive towards Nvidia and maybe even BECOME competitive towards Intel?
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I'm hopefull that they will turn it around, business go through this at some point. I know my contribution is tiny but I started buying amd products when I heard of this...I wish them luck.
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The thing is,

AMD have managed to stay afloat (So to speak) purely because they rarely change their chipset, so you can use newer processors in the same motherboard etc. It's a great bonus over the intels.

AMD as far as CPU's go are not as good as intel when it comes to desktops, the Opterons are pretty good to be honest, we use em in the DC here. So they make some cash from that.

As for GPU's, both cards have their merit, it purely comes down to what you want to do with it. I.E if you wanna fold, go Nvidia without fail, if you want high end FPS in the majority of your games, go ATI.

AMD are in no way, shape or form about to disappear or be sold off to another company. They have a good corner stone in the market and anyone who has their kit should not worry, remember, you'll always have fanboi's biggrin.gif

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Edited by compuman145 - 11/27/12 at 7:40am
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APUs and midrange GPUs are what's holding AMD up right now. They haven't broken into the mobile space (tablets, phones) like Nvidia has (Tegra). The next gen consoles will be using AMD sourced GPUs though.

There's a ton of reasons why people go Nvidia...
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1022121-amd-cannot-survive-the-graphics-war-like-this
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On the brand equity side of things, Nvidia simply takes the cake. Why? Nvidia, first off, has a number of programs and promotions that help customers feel like they are part of a legitimate ecosystem. For example:

GeForce.com - This is a site that Nvidia keeps up that has blogs, game demos, driver updates, promotions for the latest games, contests to win prizes, and community support forums. AMD's Radeon support site offers nowhere near the level of user experience and support. It's also not called "Radeon.com" or anything like that.
The Way It's Meant To Be Played - Nvidia's marketing campaign -- The Way It's Meant To Be Played -- which essentially acts as a "seal of approval" from the game publisher, acts as a powerful "reminder" to gamers that in order to get the full experience of the game, one needs Nvidia hardware.
On the latter point, Nvidia's strong developer relations and software teams do actually enable a few fundamental features critical to the user experience that AMD does not offer. For example:

PhysX - This enables GPU-accelerated physics effects in games that are programmed to support them. Nvidia's software team works with game developers to smoothly and seamlessly get these things integrated. Gamers who want the best generally don't want to have to keep checkbox features unchecked, which is why the scales often tip in favor of Nvidia.
3D Vision - This allows for stereoscopic 3D in PC games, provided that one owns a 3D Vision Kit (a pair of 3D glasses) and the right monitor. A niche market, but something gamers will consider when plunking down hundreds of dollars for their next generation graphics cards. Nvidia works with the game developers to make sure this is implemented in many of the major titles.

the article writer is Nvidia biased though, AMD has HD3D but less support see

http://sites.amd.com/us/recommended/Pages/hd3d-panels.aspx

vs
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html
Edited by AlphaC - 11/28/12 at 11:55am
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