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Actually, many kinds of bacteria responsible for necrotizing fasciitis are facultative anaerobic or anaerobic.

No.

Many of those anaerobic for flesh eating diseases are actually opportunistic infections - albiet those with already compromised immunity(or a gashing wound), and NOT the primary measure of this disease(exotoxins, etc). Those responsible for textbook flesh eating disease as implied by this thread are topical and thus reflect the aerobic nature of this disease.
Edited by Blindrage606 - 11/29/12 at 6:38am
 
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No.
Many of those anaerobic for flesh eating diseases are actually opportunistic infections - albiet those with already compromised immunity(or a gashing wound), and NOT the primary measure of this disease(exotoxins, etc). Those responsible for textbook flesh eating disease as implied by this thread are topical and thus reflect the aerobic nature of this disease.

:oi love being in a science class again after 10 years:thumb:
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Awesome find.
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lets just hope we dont unleash and ancient strain of flesh eating virus lol

Seriously.. lets hope this doesn't happen. I live in Reno where the bacteria is currently being studied.... I'll go before a cure is created.
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Im just hoping they find out something truly interesating about these organisms.

cant wait to watch the Documentary
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No.
Many of those anaerobic for flesh eating diseases are actually opportunistic infections - albiet those with already compromised immunity(or a gashing wound), and NOT the primary measure of this disease(exotoxins, etc). Those responsible for textbook flesh eating disease as implied by this thread are topical and thus reflect the aerobic nature of this disease.

Kind of a nit-picky definition imo. Your initial statement was wrong. Not all bacteria that cause a flesh eating disease are aerobic. (ex. Clostridium tertium). If you want to cut someone down for disagreeing with your overly broad statement that's fine. However, if you wanted to be super specific you could have been like "Flesh eating disease is usually caused by an aerobic bacteria (Streptococcus pyogenes). The only type of bacteria that could survive under the lake would be anaerobic and probably not similar at all to this."

Plus, if you want to get super freaking technical there is no "flesh eating bacteria". Just bacteria that kills your flesh to the point where you can't use it.

Don't argue semantics if your semantics were wrong.
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Let's just hope we don't unleash an ancient strain of flesh eating fish, lol

 

Fixed. :D

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Fixed. biggrin.gif

these would be very strange fish indeed if they could exist in that lake, dunno what the hell they would "breath"

Maybe there is a bed of Methane they have adapted to?
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Kind of a nit-picky definition imo. Your initial statement was wrong. Not all bacteria that cause a flesh eating disease are aerobic. (ex. Clostridium tertium). If you want to cut someone down for disagreeing with your overly broad statement that's fine. However, if you wanted to be super specific you could have been like "Flesh eating disease is usually caused by an aerobic bacteria (Streptococcus pyogenes). The only type of bacteria that could survive under the lake would be anaerobic and probably not similar at all to this."

Plus, if you want to get super freaking technical there is no "flesh eating bacteria". Just bacteria that kills your flesh to the point where you can't use it.
Don't argue semantics if your semantics were wrong.

No.

The term flesh eating bacteria is common nomenclature for bacteria affiliated with primary disease symptoms causing the nectrotizing of flesh. Simple ubiquitous bacteria such as those you mentioned along with many Staph. spp. are capable of "eating flesh" but are NOT primary called so.

Which brings us to the next point, semantics. Bacteria does metabolically eat your flesh, by definition it disassembles the host carbohydrates via host skin/flesh and repackages into a sugar/glucose through absorbstion/reabsorbstion gradients(and various other forms,catalase,etc) usable by bacteria.--Which is facilitated through O2 in bacteria fermentation and aerobic respiration. GASP... In essence, the same thing you do when you eat a piece of flesh(hopefully not human)! Hence, the nomenclature, flesh "eating" bacteria.

The decay of your flesh if you were a victim of such a bacterium, is only a secondary effect from the perspective of the pathogen and does not just "kill" your flesh for giggles but rather as a "food"- and ultimately a source of glucose.

Please don't correct on "semantics", when your semantics are incorrect. Also, I'm not trying to cut down anyone, just spreading some knowledge and trying to clear up some science stereotypes.
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