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If it's anything like the difference between S3688 and S3888, it's not going to handle 6400 DPI well. I'm not exactly sure, but doesn't the sensor only natively see up to 1800 DPI?

I'm not sure too, but I'm sure there is improvement from the 1800DPI on S3688 in Salmosa to 1600DPI on A3090 in Savu in terms of jitters/tracking quality. Not sure about malfunction speed though.

And if you have seen the photo of the internals of DA 4G showing the sensor chip, it looks totally different from A3090/S3888 with different shape and pins etc. Could it be a whole new design? (or am I wrong about the sensor chip?)
post #32 of 39
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If it's anything like the difference between S3688 and S3888, it's not going to handle 6400 DPI well. I'm not exactly sure, but doesn't the sensor only natively see up to 1800 DPI?
Who cares about 6400 DPI? The main improvement is that it now tracks at 200 IPS up to 50G of acceleration at any DPI, when the old 3888 DeathAdder can only track between 60-120 IPS depending on DPI, up to 15G of acceleration, and it supports surface calibration with an adjustable lift-off distance.

That change means that even at 400 DPI on a bad surface for optical mice, I can't make my DeathAdder 2013 malfunction. I can easily make any 3888/3090 mouse I have used malfunction at 400 DPI.

That said, movements are smooth at 6400 DPI - much better than 3500 DPI was on the old 3888 sensor, or 4000 DPI on the 3090.
Edited by NotAgain - 11/29/12 at 8:37pm
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Just a thought, but if you're super competitive and you've built yourself up to being a LAN caliber player with a WMO, what exactly is it that makes you feel like you have to change? I know plenty of high level CS players using the same mouse that they learned to play the game with regardless of what it is.

If you want a new mouse, that's one thing. But if you want a new mouse to improve your game, you're likely going to A. immediately have the opposite effect B. give yourself an artificial learning curve in a game you've already developed habits in and C. probably just opening the door to buying every new thing that comes along the hype train. That's just my opinion though, and I'm sure you'll find no shortage of people who disagree.
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Just a thought, but if you're super competitive and you've built yourself up to being a LAN caliber player with a WMO, what exactly is it that makes you feel like you have to change? I know plenty of high level CS players using the same mouse that they learned to play the game with regardless of what it is.
If you want a new mouse, that's one thing. But if you want a new mouse to improve your game, you're likely going to A. immediately have the opposite effect B. give yourself an artificial learning curve in a game you've already developed habits in and C. probably just opening the door to buying every new thing that comes along the hype train. That's just my opinion though, and I'm sure you'll find no shortage of people who disagree.
+ this so hard
post #36 of 39
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The DA 2013 is a phillips twin eye sensor, as far as I know, and those have some issues with many cloth mouse pads. The ADSN 3090/3888 sensor is better at low sensitivities.

Would a Deathadder 2013 be OK with this mousepad you think? http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-behemoth-regulator-mousepads.html
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Just a thought, but if you're super competitive and you've built yourself up to being a LAN caliber player with a WMO, what exactly is it that makes you feel like you have to change? I know plenty of high level CS players using the same mouse that they learned to play the game with regardless of what it is.
If you want a new mouse, that's one thing. But if you want a new mouse to improve your game, you're likely going to A. immediately have the opposite effect B. give yourself an artificial learning curve in a game you've already developed habits in and C. probably just opening the door to buying every new thing that comes along the hype train. That's just my opinion though, and I'm sure you'll find no shortage of people who disagree.

Just to give this statement a bit more influence (without waving my epeen around). As an ex professional level CS1.6 player, I completely agree.

I know several high level players who use extremely cheap mice. It's not to rule out that mishaps happen, but rather a testament to how well you know your mouse. A good player cannot use one mouse one day, another the next, it's not routine and it's not how you get good at playing. Sure, maybe month to month or separate mice per game or per rig. I was told by my coach that the only way to truly rule out unpredictable hardware related game influencing events, you have to stick with what you know and what you like using.

Because of this fact, I think it's very important to understand that you can't have a mouse recommended to you. As gay as it sounds, it's like a soul mate relationship. You'll know when you find the one, for me, it was the Razer Lachesis with fingertip/semiclaw grip, let me tell you - that bond started off very poorly, however I grew to realize that it was absolutely the mouse for me. With it, I've taken rounds from extremely high rated CS1.6 teams in leagues, and at LANs.

Take this information and use it to your advantage, buddy. It's only on Overclock that you'll get opinions that are this objective.

Bare in mind, however, I'm being a total hypocrite at the moment because I'm using a SteelSeries Xai - as my Lachesis died last year. Terrible mouse, wouldn't recommend.
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Just to give this statement a bit more influence (without waving my epeen around). As an ex professional level CS1.6 player, I completely agree.
I know several high level players who use extremely cheap mice. It's not to rule out that mishaps happen, but rather a testament to how well you know your mouse. A good player cannot use one mouse one day, another the next, it's not routine and it's not how you get good at playing. Sure, maybe month to month or separate mice per game or per rig. I was told by my coach that the only way to truly rule out unpredictable hardware related game influencing events, you have to stick with what you know and what you like using.
Because of this fact, I think it's very important to understand that you can't have a mouse recommended to you. As gay as it sounds, it's like a soul mate relationship. You'll know when you find the one, for me, it was the Razer Lachesis with fingertip/semiclaw grip, let me tell you - that bond started off very poorly, however I grew to realize that it was absolutely the mouse for me. With it, I've taken rounds from extremely high rated CS1.6 teams in leagues, and at LANs.
Take this information and use it to your advantage, buddy. It's only on Overclock that you'll get opinions that are this objective.
Bare in mind, however, I'm being a total hypocrite at the moment because I'm using a SteelSeries Xai - as my Lachesis died last year. Terrible mouse, wouldn't recommend.

Yeah total agree, and even for myself although I'm not like a pro or ex-pro, just experimenting with all the difference mice like the DA, G400, Microsoft, ZOWIE, SS, I realized the best for me was the IME3.0 overall just the most comfortable with decent enough tracking for me so had to pick one back up.
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Honestly, dont change your mouse unless it breaks. If, and when it does, I recommend the Logitech G400. Im using it on a 9HD and its a pretty sweet combo
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