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Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post

I call BS on these numbers. Microsoft is probably including copies shipped to OEMs for future sale with new computers, not actual sales of Windows 8 that people are using. Its like when a company says they "sold" a million copies of some new video game, but 800,000 of those copies are sitting on store shelves not being bought.
Um, Windows 7 was wildly popular and had the same numbers as Windows 8 at this time.

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Its mostly that. It would take more like 6-7 months before they sell out and order new licenses form MS. I got Windows 8 because it was $15 and thats it. I am not even using it now. Needs more work for me to actually use it as my Main OS.
I wouldn't disagree with this. It's not for everyone. I use it and I like it, but I understand that there are those who don't.
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From the wording, OEM were included. If not it would have been worded differently, MS would love to throw out large figures if they had any. Would shut all the critics up.
kookoo.gifwth.gif Did you notice the part where it sold as much as Windows 7 in the same time period when judged by the same criteria?
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I call BS on these numbers. Microsoft is probably including copies shipped to OEMs for future sale with new computers, not actual sales of Windows 8 that people are using. Its like when a company says they "sold" a million copies of some new video game, but 800,000 of those copies are sitting on store shelves not being bought.

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From the wording, OEM were included. If not it would have been worded differently, MS would love to throw out large figures if they had any. Would shut all the critics up.

Did either of you read the article? It clearly states that it includes OEM sales, as did WIn7 at launch. Only this time, Windows isn't recovering from the failure that was vista. Who cares if it was a $15 upgrade or if people bought it but didn't install it. Shareholders care about what sold. And those licenses were sold, installed or not.
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Um, Windows 7 was wildly popular and had the same numbers as Windows 8 at this time.
Agreed except for the bolded ones.
I wouldn't disagree with this. It's not for everyone. I use it and I like it, but I understand that there are those who don't.
kookoo.gifwth.gif Did you notice the part where it sold as much as Windows 7 in the same time period when judged by the same criteria?

Xp is still great, and I straight up do not believe the numbers They are claiming because they go against other reports.
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Xp is still great, and I straight up do not believe the numbers They are claiming because they go against other reports.

Fudging the numbers 10% or so is one thing, but for Microsoft to completely BS us and claim something totally inaccurate would be unprecedented for a company of their reputation and size. Considering that WIndows is their flagship product, that would be a scandal of Enron-level proportions.
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In addition to what I said in my first post, preenhausen's comment on Ars is also relevant:

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Given that monthly sales of PC's are in the neighborhood of 35 million a month, it sounds pretty luke warm to me. Basically you had 35 million PC sales which would've happened anyway plus 5 million people who took advantage of the $40 upgrade.

When Win7 launched, the monthly PC volume was more like 25 million a month. So that would imply three times as many early upgraders for Win7. On top of that, those upgrade prices were a lot higher than $40 and you had to buy the physical disk.

Perhaps the pent-up demand argument makes sense although it was my impression that Vista was actually working fairly well by the time Win7 finally arrived.
 
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Ouch! Can't be good for the Windows 8 Boycott Club.
They too busy pulling their hair out at the numbers and trying to hatch up a evil plan to stop the sales in their hidden cave base.
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Before I get beaten to it, allow me to highlight a significant portion of the following:
I won't cry because it didn't fail. As I said, I'm glad MS is seeing some success here, but I still ain't buyin' it. wink.gif
If you're trying to imply that Windows 8 sales are only high because of lower pricing, I'd say that you're missing a rather obvious part of the picture. The Windows OS in general is receiving a lot more competition. Microsoft is having to make some radical changes in order to compete with Android, other Linux operating systems and OSX/iOS. They also have to compete with themselves — Windows 7 is a great product, so a lot do not see the incentive of fixing something that isn't broken.
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I'm becoming a bigger fan of W8 the more I use it so I could care less about all the hating going on. Hopefully the numbers stay positive thumb.gif
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Glad to hear Microsoft didn't shoot themselves in the foot with this one like so many people, including myself, thought they would.
...but consider this as well:
Before I get beaten to it, allow me to highlight a significant portion of the following:
I won't cry because it didn't fail. As I said, I'm glad MS is seeing some success here, but I still ain't buyin' it. wink.gif
'


Actually, the Windows 7 upgrades started at $49.... So there isn't a significant difference. Unless you can prove that MSFT sold more Windows 7 Pro versions than Home variants than this isn't a valid point.
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From Friday through July 11, consumers in the U.S. will be able to buy an upgrade copy of Windows 7 Home premium for $49

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Same conditions as Windows 7, so its doing pretty good.
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They too busy pulling their hair out at the numbers and trying to hatch up a evil plan to stop the sales in their hidden cave base.

Either that, or they're combing the Internet trying to find damning news to post in the OCN news section.
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Compared to Windows 7 numbers, these numbers are good, and Windows 7 numbers were counted the same way.

The only real way to tell is to track long term (more than 1 year) sales.

This is absolutely true. Corporate sales will ultimately determine the better seller, and it's far too early to see any significant data from that sphere.
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Who cares if it was a $15 upgrade or if people bought it but didn't install it. Shareholders care about what sold. And those licenses were sold, installed or not.

Shareholders care about revenues and profits, not total sales volume. They'll be much more interested in Microsoft's next SEC filing than in a press release.
    
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