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put this in your cc_config and it will report automatically from now on.

Thanks Dark, but i was simply looking for a way to determine which projects would have enough WU's to accommodate 4 days of us all going at it like maniacs smile.gif. Don't want to agree to do a project then find out we run out of WU's on the first day biggrin.gif

I was meaning the 'results ready to send' column on this page: http://boincstats.com/en/page/projectStatusInfo

Does that mean results awaiting to be sent from clients to the project, or available WU's to send to clients?
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http://www.overclock.net/t/480505/275-month-folding-prizes-september-winners-posted/0_50
In F@H we also have monthly prizes. Does BOINC have something like that? It would have to be pts bigger than what can be achieved in just being in the BGB. Something that causes a person to fold throughout the month just to get the minimum # of pts with a weak hardware (like a quad-core cpu).
Sadly people will only keep crunching if there's some incentive to it. For me the cost of electricity tends to over-ride the feeling of accomplishment of doing it for whatever cause I'm crunching for. But when there's prizes involved, I tend to get quite a bit more persuaded.

There are prizes every BGB, yes.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/480505/275-month-folding-prizes-september-winners-posted/0_50
In F@H we also have monthly prizes. Does BOINC have something like that? It would have to be pts bigger than what can be achieved in just being in the BGB. Something that causes a person to fold throughout the month just to get the minimum # of pts with a weak hardware (like a quad-core cpu).
Sadly people will only keep crunching if there's some incentive to it. For me the cost of electricity tends to over-ride the feeling of accomplishment of doing it for whatever cause I'm crunching for. But when there's prizes involved, I tend to get quite a bit more persuaded.

Yeah, that's been brought up a few times, but it seems certain people here don't like that idea. It's unfair to the new people, and with there being different points for different projects there isn't a good way to weight the points, and they don't want to force people to run a specific project that they don't feel is worthy of the cost of electricity. I think with a couple of tweeks it could work just fine, but you know what they say about rocking the boat... thumb.gif
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put this in your cc_config and it will report automatically from now on.

Thanks Dark, but i was simply looking for a way to determine which projects would have enough WU's to accommodate 4 days of us all going at it like maniacs smile.gif. Don't want to agree to do a project then find out we run out of WU's on the first day biggrin.gif

I was meaning the 'results ready to send' column on this page: http://boincstats.com/en/page/projectStatusInfo

Does that mean results awaiting to be sent from clients to the project, or available WU's to send to clients?
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Originally Posted by Krusher33 View Post

http://www.overclock.net/t/480505/275-month-folding-prizes-september-winners-posted/0_50
In F@H we also have monthly prizes. Does BOINC have something like that? It would have to be pts bigger than what can be achieved in just being in the BGB. Something that causes a person to fold throughout the month just to get the minimum # of pts with a weak hardware (like a quad-core cpu).
Sadly people will only keep crunching if there's some incentive to it. For me the cost of electricity tends to over-ride the feeling of accomplishment of doing it for whatever cause I'm crunching for. But when there's prizes involved, I tend to get quite a bit more persuaded.

There are prizes every BGB, yes.
Right, I left out that we have a monthly 48-hr fold-a-thons that has prizes, and then on top of that, a monthly prize as well with different categories depending on how many points.
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Originally Posted by Krusher33 View Post

http://www.overclock.net/t/480505/275-month-folding-prizes-september-winners-posted/0_50
In F@H we also have monthly prizes. Does BOINC have something like that? It would have to be pts bigger than what can be achieved in just being in the BGB. Something that causes a person to fold throughout the month just to get the minimum # of pts with a weak hardware (like a quad-core cpu).
Sadly people will only keep crunching if there's some incentive to it. For me the cost of electricity tends to over-ride the feeling of accomplishment of doing it for whatever cause I'm crunching for. But when there's prizes involved, I tend to get quite a bit more persuaded.

Yeah, that's been brought up a few times, but it seems certain people here don't like that idea. It's unfair to the new people, and with there being different points for different projects there isn't a good way to weight the points, and they don't want to force people to run a specific project that they don't feel is worthy of the cost of electricity. I think with a couple of tweeks it could work just fine, but you know what they say about rocking the boat... thumb.gif

Yeah.

For new people, it just puts them "in pursuit of performance" mode in trying to find the best way to get the most points.

But yeah... the multiple projects thingy is what driving me nuts about BOINC right now.

It's driving me nuts in folding too. Some projects there will give you 200k ppd while others only give 12k.
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One big difference between Folding and BOINC within OCN, is Folding has OCN backing/sponsorship for EVERY event, and not just a lanyard. Here with BOINC, we've had two large prize pools that I can recall, in the past year. One of those events had folders come in, won the prizes, and we haven't seen them since. That was somewhat addressed this past BGB with the prior requirements set for the largest prizes.
 
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One big difference between Folding and BOINC within OCN, is Folding has OCN backing/sponsorship for EVERY event, and not just a lanyard. Here with BOINC, we've had two large prize pools that I can recall, in the past year. One of those events had folders come in, won the prizes, and we haven't seen them since. That was somewhat addressed this past BGB with the prior requirements set for the largest prizes.

Thats not really a fair comment, my friend.

A general request for assistance was made to the folding group to assist in the BGB points push. It's harldy the fault of those that helped out that they won some prizes.

Besides, in a quid-pro-quo, the crunchers helped out the folders during the FFW... granted, those prizes havent been awarded yet rolleyes.gif

I accept that the folding section is well supported by Admin et al but that was not always the case. Isnt it up to us to get that same level of support for the BOINC team?
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Just as a general thought, if we're seriously looking at creating a random list and hitting projects sequentially:

Some projects have significant platform limitations. My primary cruncher is an old E6600 x64 Linux box with an AMD 6870.

It is atrocious to find projects that function and function reliably for that system. This isn't a bad idea, but it might not be all inclusive. I mostly just run collatz since it works, and eOn since I'm a chemist and I find it interesting. I'm happy just letting those two projects run though. Sidenote, if anyone has experiences with other projects on a similar system I'd really be interested in your successes or problems, although pm might be better to prevent thread derail.
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One big difference between Folding and BOINC within OCN, is Folding has OCN backing/sponsorship for EVERY event, and not just a lanyard. Here with BOINC, we've had two large prize pools that I can recall, in the past year. One of those events had folders come in, won the prizes, and we haven't seen them since. That was somewhat addressed this past BGB with the prior requirements set for the largest prizes.

Thats not really a fair comment, my friend.

A general request for assistance was made to the folding group to assist in the BGB points push. It's harldy the fault of those that helped out that they won some prizes.

Besides, in a quid-pro-quo, the crunchers helped out the folders during the FFW... granted, those prizes havent been awarded yet rolleyes.gif

I accept that the folding section is well supported by Admin et al but that was not always the case. Isnt it up to us to get that same level of support for the BOINC team?

It's also not a fair comment in that it was just last month's BGB. I'm pretty sure I and loads of other folders will be back for the next BGB.
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It's also not a fair comment in that it was just last month's BGB. I'm pretty sure I and loads of other folders will be back for the next BGB.

Well a simple comparison and easy to spot why so many ppl signed up. Its still a week till the event starts so maybe another 60 ppl will sign up but with these kinds of prizes kookoo.gif
Being the last event of the year maybe the big prizes should have been held onto till BGB24 or maybe hold onto a larger prize and save for the next event.

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As Dark stated, i don't think competing between ourselves in teams is really a viable option for BOINC. I do think however that voting for project participation is something we should definitely implement. It shouldn't be solely reserved to projects that are good point generators. I think having at least 1 GPU and 1 CPU project a month to choose from is a good idea because it utilises our resources most effectively, that way no component is idle biggrin.gif
I'm going to work up a list now, dividing all the projects up by CPU and GPU to see what we have. Instead of voting every month on project, why not just work our way through the list at random until it is done, then repeat the cycle? That way every BOINC project gets a chance biggrin.gif
EDIT: Busy making a table of projects we could run, but does anyone know if 'Results ready to send' in BOINCStats is WU's available, or just results that people have computed awaiting to be sent to server? I have already bothered discounting projects that are offline/have huge validation backlogs.

It seems that there are some obscure projects that some people take pride in running for whatever reason which is cool in my books, But there are some projects that some people don't or won't run for whatever reason?
See Image below smile.gif

While a list at random is a good idea, there is also the high probability that people simply won't run said projects because it isn't in their interests and may not get the numbers needed throughout the month to make a difference?
While on the other hand voting by numbers is going to possibly produce the same result again and again (as it has done in the past).
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I am simply here to BOINC and this forum is useful and fun. Overclock.net is great and I really don't care if the admin pays more attention or not to the BOINCers as long as we are tolerated..

There are certain projects that I won't do. I won't mention them, because I have no problem with people crunching those projects. It is my computer, my electricity and my internet. I will donate it as I see fit and I extend the same courtesy to everyone else. Have a good day and Happy BOINCing biggrin.gif
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H8QGi+-F Hynix 16 x HMT151R7BFR4C-H9 4GB 2RX4 PC3-10600R Silicon Power Slim S55 2.5" 480GB SATA III SSD ... Cooler Master Hyper 212 
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Ubuntu Server 14.04 
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