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Deegon, i'm not talking about getting people to run different projects for a whole month. My suggestion is to run a different CPU and GPU project every BGB, not as a BOINC Team as a whole. It makes a lot of sense to do so. People can go back to competing 24/7 365 on POEM and Moo the rest of the time, i just personally consider that a fruitless endeavour.

I like the idea of crunching for one CPU and one GPU project during the two day BGB. It would make the competition more balanced in that everyone is crunching the same type of work units for the same amount of points. I think it will also help newcomers if we are focusing on just two main projects. Rotating the project each BGB would raise awareness for different projects.

I like the idea of having a CPU and GPU project where point totals over the two day event could be kept for both, a CPU race and a GPU race. I know there are many people, especially folders, who have more extensive CPU setups than GPUs. I think CPU crunching is getting overlooked because it doesn't result in the massive points GPU does, but most of the "worthy/better humanity" projects are still CPU based.

just my thoughts smile.gif
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Deegon, i'm not talking about getting people to run different projects for a whole month. My suggestion is to run a different CPU and GPU project every BGB, not as a BOINC Team as a whole. It makes a lot of sense to do so. People can go back to competing 24/7 365 on POEM and Moo the rest of the time, i just personally consider that a fruitless endeavour.

Why do you keep hating POEM or Protein Optimization with Energy Methods? Why help with cancer research, it is by your account, a fruitless endeavor.
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Why do you keep hating POEM or Protein Optimization with Energy Methods? Why help with cancer research, it is by your account, a fruitless endeavor.

I hate to jump into the middle of friendly disagreement, but Poem GPU units are crunching for display crystal science, basically advancing knowledge on how to create better screens. Its not protein or cancer related and several people on their discussion forums have been upset with their lack of transparency when they made the switch.
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I hate to jump into the middle of friendly disagreement, but Poem GPU units are crunching for display crystal science, basically advancing knowledge on how to create better screens. Its not protein or cancer related and several people on their discussion forums have been upset with their lack of transparency when they made the switch.

Huh, didn't know that... headscratch.gif

I was also under the impression it was protein folding....
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I hate to jump into the middle of friendly disagreement, but Poem GPU units are crunching for display crystal science, basically advancing knowledge on how to create better screens. Its not protein or cancer related and several people on their discussion forums have been upset with their lack of transparency when they made the switch.

First, science is not pretty and very difficult to understand when you get into specializations. I say this because the way the way the scientist/project admin explains what the gpu research is doing. Just because it isn't the protein folding that the cpus are doing doesn't mean that it isn't a fundamental part of the research.

Go to the end were others have explained what POEM gpu work is doing. http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/forum_thread.php?id=794#6804
post #46 of 77
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Deegon, i'm not talking about getting people to run different projects for a whole month. My suggestion is to run a different CPU and GPU project every BGB, not as a BOINC Team as a whole. It makes a lot of sense to do so. People can go back to competing 24/7 365 on POEM and Moo the rest of the time, i just personally consider that a fruitless endeavour.

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I like the idea of crunching for one CPU and one GPU project during the two day BGB. It would make the competition more balanced in that everyone is crunching the same type of work units for the same amount of points. I think it will also help newcomers if we are focusing on just two main projects. Rotating the project each BGB would raise awareness for different projects.
I like the idea of having a CPU and GPU project where point totals over the two day event could be kept for both, a CPU race and a GPU race. I know there are many people, especially folders, who have more extensive CPU setups than GPUs. I think CPU crunching is getting overlooked because it doesn't result in the massive points GPU does, but most of the "worthy/better humanity" projects are still CPU based.
just my thoughts smile.gif

I guess that BGB has always been a time to get every one together to crunch as much as possible, making our way up the ranking and getting noticed?
This is a big part of attracting more people to the team and of course getting them online and chatting about their problems or even about what they are up to for Christmas smile.gif
this is the hart of what makes BGB what it is?
Don't get me wrong, any new ideas are welcome thumb.gif
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Why do you keep hating POEM or Protein Optimization with Energy Methods? Why help with cancer research, it is by your account, a fruitless endeavor.

If you re-read my post, I was actually careful to use the word FRUITLESS as opposed to classifying it as POINTLESS. My only real dislike for POEM/Moo is the unfairly high reward they offer, which (unfortunately, and somewhat ludicrously) stops people from contributing to other projects because they are so intent on getting a high PPD, regardless of what they're donating their time to. I'm not 'hating' on it at all, i'm just saying I don't believe it is at present a worthy cause, for the reasons stated by Granno smile.gif
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I guess that BGB has always been a time to get every one together to crunch as much as possible, making our way up the ranking and getting noticed?
This is a big part of attracting more people to the team and of course getting them online and chatting about their problems or even about what they are up to for Christmas smile.gif
this is the hart of what makes BGB what it is?
Don't get me wrong, any new ideas are welcome thumb.gif

On the contrary, i think that actually contributing to BOINC should be the primary motivating factor behind participation. Being a member of a nice/fun/good team and discussing things is just a bonus. Working on different projects for 4 days a month is hardly going to create a 'slide' down the rankings. After all, if everyone is on the same 2 projects for BGB, it's still just as competitive, if not more so.
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Too simplistic a view guys, any modelling requires confirmation of the accuracy of the results.
Even F1 has to correlate their model with their wind tunnel.
POEM needs to predict the accuracy of their model by analysis of a simpler specimen.

Some have seen this as under-hand (?)

Just my humble opinion.

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