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2. Quality is subjective. The GS3, which has outsold the iPhone 5, is made of mostly plastic

not sure how physical build quality is related to how well it sells. the GS3 is pretty fragile without a case. In terms of materials used and design, the iPhone 5 has it beat. There are drop comparisons on youtube along with the anecdote of my student worker dropping his GS3 from sitting height.
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1) I've only boughten garbage ipods from them which I had to rma multiple times because they sucked. For one iPod they refused to give me a new one and I went legally after them. As for the mac books try to game on one. I don't call that an all rounder.

I can play BF3 on my 15". Just sayin, albeit not at ultra max settings.
 
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1) I've only boughten garbage ipods from them which I had to rma multiple times because they sucked. For one iPod they refused to give me a new one and I went legally after them. As for the mac books try to game on one. I don't call that an all rounder.

2)  You're only looking at this from one angle. For example, the iPod Touch 4th gen has 256mb and the games crash constantly.  Also, the Apple Wireless router that gets sold for 100$ had until shortly only a bandwidth of 54mbps. At least manufacturers such as Samsung, Cisco or HP can implement the newest technologies into their devices without waiting 3 years until the prices drop.

3) I'm a 15yo and in my eyes I'm doing less whining then you who is probably some 40yo.

4) Apple IS smart because they know what the average Joe wants and makes people think they are high qualitative. (they're not)

5) If I compare PC users with Apple users I do think there is a different mentality. Apple users are often snobbish and just think they are better because their device is white. Ask Mac owners and Windows PC owners what a GPU is. I would bet a million that more PC users know what it is. And with more I mean about 3-4x as much at least.

The airport express has had wireless N since 2008. I.e. when you were 11. That's not recent.

Name a decent Android PMP... oh wait there aren't any.

A rMBP has a faster GPU than a base M17x. Higher clock rate, same execution cores.

Apple has consistently put the best in class GPU in their products. OS X is highly dependent on GPU acceleration for animations. The iPhone/iPad has consistently had head and shoulders better GPU performance than the competition. The 27" iMac offers what is basically a downclocked GTX670.
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post #193 of 305
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Name a decent Android PMP... oh wait there aren't any.
What is PMP?
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post #194 of 305
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1. You can play Diablo 3 on 2880x1800 on a MacBook Retina. It games perfectly fine. A 650m is more than enough for gaming on a laptop and will play pretty much anything if you mess with settings as you would do on any other notebook. If it plays almost all games fine (which it does) then yeah, it fits the all round gaming category, It doesn't have run Eyefinity Crysis.
2. Apple devices have been the some of longest running devices with Wireless N, so they do implement technologies very quickly. They were faster than most laptop OEM's to get Ivy Bridge in their systems.
3. Age is irrelevant, attitude is what matters. You lack objectivity in your blind hatred for a company based on them not using Windows. Feel free to point out my whining though, as I haven't done so.
4. Yup, I agree. In terms of business practices, they're one of the best companies in the world for making money.
5. Actually MacBooks are silver. You seem to think the average PC user has a clue what a GPU is, I find that funny. The average PC user is just as stupid as the average Mac user. Just because one paid more for their computer doesn't make them a different breed of people. My sig rig cost about the same as my MBP, so what does that make me? A white-device-using-snob who knows what a graphics card is? Again, be objective here.


1) OpenGL

 

2) Look out of the eyes of the average consumer 8 years ago. You see a device which has wireless in it you think it's cool even if you won't be using that feature. Now 3 years ago. You see a computer with a thunderbolt port and think it's cool.

 

Thunderbolt and and Wifi get recognized by the average consumer, and that's why Apple was early implementing it. The details like 256mb ram in an mp3 player or 54mbps bandwidth in a wlan router don't get recognized so they don't bother changing it.

 

3)You were the one who said xd sounded like a 14yo

 

5) The average Mac is stupider in terms of tech. With that I DONT mean OCN users but people on the street. Windows calls a GPU GPU. I have never seen my parents' mac mentioning a GPU except if you look at the specs. Android calls ram ram while ios calls it "multitasking bar". I like if companies implement linux into their PCs. I just have had so many bad experiences that I really hate them.


Edited by noobhell - 12/1/12 at 8:35am
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I haven't heard or seen anyone with a Mac tower in almost a decade. You barely see them in the stores it seems. They're definitely a laptop and mobile shop.

FWIW, many labs and professors in my University graduate Comp Sci department use iMacs and MacPros.
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I am so concerned about Apple.


For the world's highest-profit margins, which triumph the PC Industry... we are given high-priced but inferior products, little innovation, more innovation-stifling through litigation, and little benefit to world society as a result of minimal (if not nonexistent) charity giving practices. This is evil corporate practices and to the max. If we were sensible and future-concerned humans, then we must start advocating to eliminate Apple as a major driver in the P.C. Industry now and right away, or we will have no affordable tech future to look forward to. We will have no societal advancement. Gadget technology will forever be a brand of consumerism, largely controlled by a single company that refuses to properly innovate. This is something we simply can not allow to happen.

There's one problem here though: Windows. IMHO, Apple has gotten where it is by simplifying computers. As much as Microsoft has tried, WIndows remains a convoluted mess under the hood. From a sensitive global system registry, insane directory structure, and the maze that is Control Panel, they still have a long way to go. Between that, and the fact that Windows lacks a Unix/Linux base (I <3 command line tools) you couldn't pay me to switch from OS X as my primary work OS. I know if I find Windows to be frustrating, your average non-tech savvy Joe will as well.

As overpriced as Apple may be, as long as the dominant alternative is Windows or a user-unfriendly Linux build, I have to hope Apple stays on top. What I really hope happens is Windows 8 proves to be a blunder for MS, and Google steps up with their own Android desktop OS. It would be simple and user friendly like OS X, but have capability of Linux under the hood. This would round our their own Nexus device/OS ecosystem to truly offer an Apple alternative.
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4. Except there are laptops with better processors, more RAM, more storage, higher capacity batteries, thinner, lighter, and cheaper.
Apple is where its at now because of its iPhone and iPad. Its mobile division.

What get's six hours of battery life, weighs 4.5 pounds, and has quadcore i7 and 650m. nothing, everything else with a quadcore i7 and gt650m weighs at least a pound more
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What get's six hours of battery life, weighs 4.5 pounds, and has quadcore i7 and 650m. nothing, everything else weight at least a pound more

Six? Just sitting browsing on wi-fi I average just over 8 hours on mine biggrin.gif.
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1) OpenGL

2) Look out of the eyes of the average consumer 8 years ago. You see a device which has wireless in it you think it's cool even if you won't be using that feature. Now 3 years ago. You see a computer with a thunderbolt port and think it's cool.

Thunderbolt and and Wifi get recognized by the average consumer, and that's why Apple was early implementing it. The details like 256mb ram in an mp3 player or 54mbps bandwidth in a wlan router don't get recognized so they don't bother changing it.

3)You were the one who said xd sounded like a 14yo

5) The average Mac is stupider in terms of tech. With that I DONT mean OCN users but people on the street. Windows calls a GPU GPU. I have never seen my parents' mac mentioning a GPU except if you look at the specs. Android calls ram ram while ios calls it "multitasking bar". I like if companies implement linux into their PCs. I just have had so many bad experiences that I really hate them.

1. your point...?

2. 8 years ago wifi was already proliferating the market. G was already in the market at 2003 (Lets not forget A/B that already existed). A lot of people were using wireless devices nearly a decade ago.

This thunderbolt port you speak of that also happens to look like a mini DisplayPort on your graphics card? That mini display port was developed by none other than Apple and then released as a standard for people to use. You might want to rip that 7770 card out of your computer if you dont like Apple innovation that much.

you really should do some more research on Apple if you think they dont adopt new technologies (Thunderbolt (Intel)? Draft N? Mini-DisplayPort, trackpad?, USB1.1?,) quickly.
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What I really hope happens is Windows 8 proves to be a blunder for MS, and Google steps up with their own Android desktop OS. It would be simple and user friendly like OS X, but have capability of Linux under the hood. This would round our their own Nexus device/OS ecosystem to truly offer an Apple alternative.

yes this would be awesome. i wish google would drop the chromebooks already. no one wants something that tied to the internet yet
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why I am so concerned about Apple.


For the world's highest-profit margins, which triumph the PC Industry... we are given high-priced but inferior products, little innovation, more innovation-stifling through litigation, and little benefit to world society as a result of minimal (if not nonexistent) charity giving practices. This is evil corporate practices and to the max. If we were sensible and future-concerned humans, then we must start advocating to eliminate Apple as a major driver in the P.C. Industry now and right away, or we will have no affordable tech future to look forward to. We will have no societal advancement. Gadget technology will forever be a brand of consumerism, largely controlled by a single company that refuses to properly innovate. This is something we simply can not allow to happen.

There's a simple way to fix this...pool money together with some friends and start shorting. You do enough volume and you might just get the market to think you're on to something and poof...Apple plunges. Odds aren't in our favor though. Apple is a marketing company on steroids and as long as they continue to follow their current strategy they will be over valued as it is almost a one for one of the textbook methodology on making a "on paper" valuable company. The cult of personality helps them too.
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The airport express has had wireless N since 2008. I.e. when you were 11. That's not recent.
Name a decent Android PMP... oh wait there aren't any.
A rMBP has a faster GPU than a base M17x. Higher clock rate, same execution cores.
Apple has consistently put the best in class GPU in their products. OS X is highly dependent on GPU acceleration for animations. The iPhone/iPad has consistently had head and shoulders better GPU performance than the competition. The 27" iMac offers what is basically a downclocked GTX670.

If you're still comparing 650m to 660m you need to read as the 650m has much slower vRAM.

The Samsung Galaxy Player was never given a marketing love and so it died out before having time to progress into a competitor.

And it doesn't matter if you make something better or first...Apple demonstrates that it's not being first or the best...it's about how well you convince others that you are. MS beat Apple to the pad fad years ago only to receive negative comments and thus they axed their work on it. Others came before them. Seriously, Apple is great at convincing people that they've done things they haven't...I will give Apple credit for that along with being a decent OEM in terms of combining pieces to make decent products. But they are not as good as they're hyped to be. Just like in wine tasting and audio equipment...people put too much value on the brand and not on the actual product. For Apple's sake...they have to really work their PR/Marketing front hard as that is all that keeps them from falling down hard to a true value level.
     
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