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So spend $5K+ on a TV for which there will be next to no content available to take advantage of it for. Then when the content arrives (years and years later, considering TV isn't even all 720p or higher yet...) these TV's will be much bigger, much better, have a lot more features (possibly mass adoption of smart TV's by then) and this will be an outdated POJ (thats junk for the nazi mods out there...)

Yea... This makes total sense rolleyes.gif

This is something that bel;ongs inside a niche market thats inside another niche market... Good to see things progress, but I simply don't care at all yet... Oh well, they can keep pushing these overpriced junk sets for the next few years, and I'll pick one up when they are dirt cheap and worth getting, just like I did with LCD (wouldn't buy an LCD till 32" dropped below $400).

The 84 inch Sony TV (opposite of what this monitor by Sharp is) offers built in upscaling to 2160p. Also, CABLE only is able to stream 720p. Fibre on the other hand can stream 1080p+. By the way, they are not really overpriced. You should learn your definitions. Overpriced typically involves a company that has a monopoly. Overpriced products are that make more than 75% - 100% profit.
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The 84 inch Sony TV (opposite of what this monitor by Sharp is) offers built in upscaling to 2160p. Also, CABLE only is able to stream 720p. Fibre on the other hand can stream 1080p+. By the way, they are not really overpriced. You should learn your definitions. Overpriced typically involves a company that has a monopoly. Overpriced products are that make more than 75% - 100% profit.

You should obviously know what I'm referring to when I state overpriced. I didn't think I'd have to spend a couple lines explaining what I mean in one line when its obvious. It would work, in very niche things like CAD. But for general purposes and general consumers, which is what I was obviously talking about, this is far from a good price, especially since there is almost no content available for it. Thankfully, these niche markets that this is great for, are not restrained by such... restraints lol.

I was talking from a purely mass consumer/mass adoption POV and thought I made that very clear, guess not. I thought I ranted enough in my posts, looks like I'm gonna have to double up each time to explain my explanations as everyone seems so sensitive these days to picking every little detail apart.

Sorry if this came across as targeted at you, just a lot of threads lately where if you don't describe every little detail people will just grasp at straws to try to find fault with a post for no reason. This one just triggered my annoyance that was building up.

Oh well. As I said again. Niche markets = great
Mass adoption for average consumers = Overpriced, impractical

Overpriced is not used to define its worth for a specific use as in this case, I'm simply comparing this type of panel to whats the norm now. So again, for pro's in niche markets = great and good price. For those who want a PC monitor or TV for their $500 computer or Digital Cable its a terrible price with no real use...

/Rant. tongue.gif
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In that case then 1336x768 is Full HD.....
It's easier to call a lower resolution 4k because it doesn't confused the average Joe thumb.gif

Yes, if you have absolutely no sense of perspective or reality. Because 43% is the same as 4% eh?
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Yes, if you have absolutely no sense of perspective or reality. Because 43% is the same as 4% eh?

A resolution difference is still a resolution difference, it could be 1% lower....it's still lower...

I wonder how many of you guys will buy the 3840 × 2160 '4K' displays over the 4096x2160 panels?
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Very nice. Would expect these to come down to ~1000 eur / 1200 $ is couple of years (i.e., approx the same cost per pixel as current 21.5'' 1920x1080 or 27'' 2560x1440 screens plus a small price premium). The tech of manufacturing such high pixel density displays has matured rather well by now so in a nutshell its just cutting the right size panel and putting it in the right size chassis with adequate controller board - which could, in theory, be very simple in the case of displayport only models.
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I wonder how many of you guys will buy the 3840 × 2160 '4K' displays over the 4096x2160 panels?

That would depend on the price difference between these wink.gif
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Yes, if you have absolutely no sense of perspective or reality. Because 43% is the same as 4% eh?

A resolution difference is still a resolution difference, it could be 1% lower....it's still lower...

I wonder how many of you guys will buy the 3840 × 2160 '4K' displays over the 4096x2160 panels?
There will be none...

And anyways, that would be 4Kipx.
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There is zero chance the price of this screen would drop by 80% in a couple of years. I believe they stated only 1500 will be made (at least initially). Just like 30" 2560x1600 monitors, they have been $1000-$2000 pretty price stable for the last 5+ years. Low volume high demand items don't usually have large price fluctuations.

Just look at the screens here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007617%20600030629&IsNodeId=1&name=30%22

Most of those screens are pretty much at the price they release at years ago.
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There is zero chance the price of this screen would drop by 80% in a couple of years. I believe they stated only 1500 will be made (at least initially). Just like 30" 2560x1600 monitors, they have been $1000-$2000 pretty price stable for the last 5+ years. Low volume high demand items don't usually have large price fluctuations.

The hope is that these will push the 30" down towards korean import style prices, and take over the $1500-$2k price point.
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The hope is that these will push the 30" down towards korean import style prices, and take over the $1500-$2k price point.

That would be pretty awesome. I think more realistically I could see this screen around $3000-$4000 after a year or two. The manufacture costs of such a dense PPI panel of this size have to be pretty darn high. Also, with that many pixels I wonder how many screens they would need to reject for dead/stuck pixels. Who is going to want a $5500 panel that has pixel issues? But then again, I bet dead/stuck pixels are going to be pretty darn hard to see with the pixel size so small and may be a non-issue.
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The 84 inch Sony TV (opposite of what this monitor by Sharp is) offers built in upscaling to 2160p. Also, CABLE only is able to stream 720p. Fibre on the other hand can stream 1080p+. By the way, they are not really overpriced. You should learn your definitions. Overpriced typically involves a company that has a monopoly. Overpriced products are that make more than 75% - 100% profit.

You should obviously know what I'm referring to when I state overpriced. I didn't think I'd have to spend a couple lines explaining what I mean in one line when its obvious. It would work, in very niche things like CAD. But for general purposes and general consumers, which is what I was obviously talking about, this is far from a good price, especially since there is almost no content available for it. Thankfully, these niche markets that this is great for, are not restrained by such... restraints lol.

I was talking from a purely mass consumer/mass adoption POV and thought I made that very clear, guess not. I thought I ranted enough in my posts, looks like I'm gonna have to double up each time to explain my explanations as everyone seems so sensitive these days to picking every little detail apart.

Sorry if this came across as targeted at you, just a lot of threads lately where if you don't describe every little detail people will just grasp at straws to try to find fault with a post for no reason. This one just triggered my annoyance that was building up.

Oh well. As I said again. Niche markets = great
Mass adoption for average consumers = Overpriced, impractical

Overpriced is not used to define its worth for a specific use as in this case, I'm simply comparing this type of panel to whats the norm now. So again, for pro's in niche markets = great and good price. For those who want a PC monitor or TV for their $500 computer or Digital Cable its a terrible price with no real use...

/Rant. tongue.gif

Overpriced is an objective word made subjective by your opinions. I explained this in the previous post. They need to make profit, you want them to put it at $1500 and lose $1000 - $2000 per sale and then go out of business?

Here is the broad definition of "overpriced": "Charge too high a price for" In a more specific term, "a price that is too high where a lowering of price would not effect profit".

The PS3 at launch of 2006 was underpriced. An iMac is overpriced. Just a couple of examples.

I am talking in a completely objective form. Sharp knows what they are doing, don't like it? Okay, be cheap, no one is going to stop you. You can wait for their monitor or Sony's TV (which could be overpriced as the TV currently is in a state of monopoly) to drop in price. You can also wait for everything else in life and just play the waiting game until you die off. BUT that is another subject for another day. This Sharp monitor is far from overpriced at this point. They need to make a profit.
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