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For people having crashes uninstall your current driver, then after reboot delete your Nvidia folder empty the recycle bin restart again then do a clean install with 310.64 with just the display driver and physx using custom install.

That fixed all my problems (except the artifacts on the screen edges during load screens in SWTOR) as the old driver install data remains in your Nvidia folder even after a clean install which was probably causing crashes.

I HOPE that most of the problems in here aren't caused by that. I hope most people know enough to do a clean install, and "clean" doesn't mean when the drivers are installing and they ask you if you want to do a clean install, that only reverts your user settings back to default for the new drivers (which I usually do anyways, just to get a fresh start on what I'm changing).

But, I have never experienced any of the problems people here seem to talk about in every driver thread. I thought I was lucky, but if people aren't doing a proper install then that will cause problems.

I use this method- http://www.overclock.net/t/1150443/how-to-remove-your-nvidia-gpu-drivers#post15432476 and Driver Fusion, ran in Safe Mode after doing the steps in that link. Process only takes 3 minutes since I've been doing this double-insurance method for a while now, and I rarely have problems, if ever.

Just trying to help. Not saying every error is someone's fault. Just offering this info to try to help though, because if you're not doing this method, then there's a good chance it really could be your fault smile.gif
...If it were really absolutely necessary in the vast majority of cases, it would be handled as such when the new driver is installed. To suggest that this drawn out procedure is always necessary is disingenuous. If you have problems after a straight install from the new driver, then sure, go this route, but there's no reason to do it if you don't have issues just straight installing the new drivers. And to suggest it is the user's fault for not doing this? That's no better. It's not the user's fault that Windows gets confused sometimes. Now, if the person comes on here and complains after not having tried this drawn out procedure to fix their problems, that's another story, but it wouldn't be their fault that something got screwed up; it would only be their fault for not being resourceful enough to try this after the simple installation didn't work properly.
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I have major issues with these drivers, Extremely low performance with my SLI GTX580s. ACIII and Blackops2 (and a few others like SWToR) get a massive 30 fps with graphics on lowest, on highest its more like 12..... Plus random lockups (and still with the no P12 state underclocking frown.gif on dual screens)

switch SLI off and its much better still not what it should be getting though, went back one beta revision and its all good again, guess I'll wait for the NEXT release, shouldn't be long at this rate tongue.gif
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I have major issues with these drivers, Extremely low performance with my SLI GTX580s. ACIII and Blackops2 (and a few others like SWToR) get a massive 30 fps with graphics on lowest, on highest its more like 12..... Plus random lockups (and still with the no P12 state underclocking frown.gif on dual screens)
switch SLI off and its much better still not what it should be getting though, went back one beta revision and its all good again, guess I'll wait for the NEXT release, shouldn't be long at this rate tongue.gif

Here with my 590 on AC 3 I play at 65 - 80 fps (maxed out except for the resolution, which is 1280x1024). If I turn off one GPU, the framerate doesn't change. It's so weird.
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Its weird huh, couple that with all the little problems 580s are having with latest/dx11 games (mainly the voltage underclock) makes for a frustrating time (oh and having to set my SLI to alt render method 2 and sacrifice a bit of performance to fix that flashing/bugged snow/shadow issue in AC3 really sucks)
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For people having crashes uninstall your current driver, then after reboot delete your Nvidia folder empty the recycle bin restart again then do a clean install with 310.64 with just the display driver and physx using custom install.

That fixed all my problems (except the artifacts on the screen edges during load screens in SWTOR) as the old driver install data remains in your Nvidia folder even after a clean install which was probably causing crashes.

I HOPE that most of the problems in here aren't caused by that. I hope most people know enough to do a clean install, and "clean" doesn't mean when the drivers are installing and they ask you if you want to do a clean install, that only reverts your user settings back to default for the new drivers (which I usually do anyways, just to get a fresh start on what I'm changing).

But, I have never experienced any of the problems people here seem to talk about in every driver thread. I thought I was lucky, but if people aren't doing a proper install then that will cause problems.

I use this method- http://www.overclock.net/t/1150443/how-to-remove-your-nvidia-gpu-drivers#post15432476 and Driver Fusion, ran in Safe Mode after doing the steps in that link. Process only takes 3 minutes since I've been doing this double-insurance method for a while now, and I rarely have problems, if ever.

Just trying to help. Not saying every error is someone's fault. Just offering this info to try to help though, because if you're not doing this method, then there's a good chance it really could be your fault smile.gif
...If it were really absolutely necessary in the vast majority of cases, it would be handled as such when the new driver is installed. To suggest that this drawn out procedure is always necessary is disingenuous. If you have problems after a straight install from the new driver, then sure, go this route, but there's no reason to do it if you don't have issues just straight installing the new drivers. And to suggest it is the user's fault for not doing this? That's no better. It's not the user's fault that Windows gets confused sometimes. Now, if the person comes on here and complains after not having tried this drawn out procedure to fix their problems, that's another story, but it wouldn't be their fault that something got screwed up; it would only be their fault for not being resourceful enough to try this after the simple installation didn't work properly.

Well I've always been under the impression that it's always good to get rid of old versions, especially when going from one family to another. But it's just like you said- it is important but it's not done by the new install, hence the necessity of procedures like this. I'm not sure why it would be considered 'long'. If you know where your folders are and know how to use the registry then it takes 3 minutes or less. I may do it in part for peace of mind, but I have rarely had problems, maybe one or two versions out of the lengthy list I've used. But yeah, if you use Driver Fusion or a similar program to analyze Nvidia files after doing an uninstall of your drivers, there's tons of files left over. We don't know for sure they all get over-written during a subsequent install, and all those files backing up after a while can't be a good thing.

Again I'm just trying to help, suggesting this procedure if someone has problems and also saying that not every problem is the user's fault, which I clearly stated in that post. I do it every install more-so for peace of mind, but I can't remember the last driver-related problem I had, so why wouldn't I recommend this if there's a good chance it helps? A couple-minute procedure for reduced likelihood of problems is a pretty fair trade for me smile.gif
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For people having crashes uninstall your current driver, then after reboot delete your Nvidia folder empty the recycle bin restart again then do a clean install with 310.64 with just the display driver and physx using custom install.

That fixed all my problems (except the artifacts on the screen edges during load screens in SWTOR) as the old driver install data remains in your Nvidia folder even after a clean install which was probably causing crashes.

I HOPE that most of the problems in here aren't caused by that. I hope most people know enough to do a clean install, and "clean" doesn't mean when the drivers are installing and they ask you if you want to do a clean install, that only reverts your user settings back to default for the new drivers (which I usually do anyways, just to get a fresh start on what I'm changing).

But, I have never experienced any of the problems people here seem to talk about in every driver thread. I thought I was lucky, but if people aren't doing a proper install then that will cause problems.

I use this method- http://www.overclock.net/t/1150443/how-to-remove-your-nvidia-gpu-drivers#post15432476 and Driver Fusion, ran in Safe Mode after doing the steps in that link. Process only takes 3 minutes since I've been doing this double-insurance method for a while now, and I rarely have problems, if ever.

Just trying to help. Not saying every error is someone's fault. Just offering this info to try to help though, because if you're not doing this method, then there's a good chance it really could be your fault smile.gif
...If it were really absolutely necessary in the vast majority of cases, it would be handled as such when the new driver is installed. To suggest that this drawn out procedure is always necessary is disingenuous. If you have problems after a straight install from the new driver, then sure, go this route, but there's no reason to do it if you don't have issues just straight installing the new drivers. And to suggest it is the user's fault for not doing this? That's no better. It's not the user's fault that Windows gets confused sometimes. Now, if the person comes on here and complains after not having tried this drawn out procedure to fix their problems, that's another story, but it wouldn't be their fault that something got screwed up; it would only be their fault for not being resourceful enough to try this after the simple installation didn't work properly.

Well I've always been under the impression that it's always good to get rid of old versions, especially when going from one family to another. But it's just like you said- it is important but it's not done by the new install, hence the necessity of procedures like this. I'm not sure why it would be considered 'long'. If you know where your folders are and know how to use the registry then it takes 3 minutes or less. I may do it in part for peace of mind, but I have rarely had problems, maybe one or two versions out of the lengthy list I've used. But yeah, if you use Driver Fusion or a similar program to analyze Nvidia files after doing an uninstall of your drivers, there's tons of files left over. We don't know for sure they all get over-written during a subsequent install, and all those files backing up after a while can't be a good thing.

Again I'm just trying to help, suggesting this procedure if someone has problems and also saying that not every problem is the user's fault, which I clearly stated in that post. I do it every install more-so for peace of mind, but I can't remember the last driver-related problem I had, so why wouldn't I recommend this if there's a good chance it helps? A couple-minute procedure for reduced likelihood of problems is a pretty fair trade for me smile.gif

I'm having issues with these drivers still. Going to give the "long" removal a shot, because it's really not that daunting. My FPS in BF3 are significantly better, and they seem to have less variation with the BETA drivers, but I keep getting crashes. I first tried a custom install and checked off "clean install" and had no luck. I uninstalled EVGA Precision and had no luck (crashes almost instantly on BF3 launching) I also ensured EVGA K-Boost was off prior to all of this driver fiddling.

Then I tried to uninstall everything in add remove programs, rebooted, deleted all the Nvidia folders I could find under C: and Program Files (both x86 and x64) then rebooted, installed the beta drivers, rebooted, and played for a while without Precision X installed - but then had a crash again.

Since it ran a lot longer after deleting the Nvidia folders, I think I might have some luck if I follow the guide above. I really want the BETA drivers to work, as I see significant performance gains with them (aside from the crashing)

I'm running Windows 8 - should the guide above work fine for Win 8?

**One problem I'm having is if I uninstall the drivers, and reboot, Windows is somehow finding a BETA driver on its own (310.54 I think it picked last time) and installing it before I get a chance to install 310.64 - how do I stop it from doing this? I think it's something to do with system restore and Win 8 being stupid but I'm not sure - I'm sure Microsoft Update wouldn't be automatically installing BETA drivers though, right?
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Here with my 590 on AC 3 I play at 65 - 80 fps (maxed out except for the resolution, which is 1280x1024). If I turn off one GPU, the framerate doesn't change. It's so weird.
I think its pretty obvious why the frame rate does not change.. its not taking advantage of both gpu's. tongue.gif
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Finally figured out what was causing my crashes. Turns out the 310s don't like the Display Link software my USB monitor uses. If I uninstall the Display Link it works fine, but with it installed (and I tried several versions) I get Aero crashes and instant crashes when launching games. Hopefully they get it fixed for WHQL.
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Very true. I never understood the beta-hate, since 2 very beneficial things are going on with them... 1) Instead of having to wait for a new release's good performance in the WHQL release, we get that performance the day the game is released (or in this case, with Far Cry 3, before release). 2) The other main reason for beta's is because we are testing the drivers, helping by reporting problems, making the next driver release that much better.
So when someone comes in here and pokes fun at the fact that beta's are constantly being released, they simply showcase how much they really comprehend it smile.gif


This.

Also, in my case I dont have the time to test such drivers, once I had, now I dont and its a pitty. I'll stick with 306.97 until WHQL is released.
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