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post #21 of 30
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Originally Posted by ColdRush View Post

You must be pretty busy Bitemarks tongue.gif

Should make a notice in red on the main page or something of that nature.
Yeah the marketplace mods are quite busy ATM

This thread should be linked in the carousel and if it is not then it will be in the near future.

Although I thought this thread and an announcement is the sticky sections in every FS/wanted section would be enough but I guess people just don't bother reading the stickies.
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Originally Posted by PCCstudent View Post

Bitemarks,you kind of missed my point.Here it is:If OCN ran a true "estore" I could see some US States wanting to get some tax money from the individual sales between members.As long as OCN keeps it an "informal marketplace" they are probably safer from being told to collect sales tax.Things are changing in the estore sales tax area.

EDIT: If cpu numbers do not need to be visible then you could show a picture of any old cpu (keep it fuzzy and no one has a chance to tell what you are showing).The cpu picture requirement has a bunch of holes in it.
I still don't understand why OCN would be required to collect tax for sales that happen between members, eBay is not required to collect tax for sales that happen on there no matter how much a single member or store sells. If you are talking about OCN opening an E-shop to sell it's own items then we still wouldn't be required to collect sales tax on member sales.
post #22 of 30
Bitemarks,in a world than ran on reason OCN probably would never be told to make sure sales taxes are collected on sales between members.We are in odd economic times,I could see in an effort to generate revenue (and OCN being easier to find than the individual sellers and buyers) some politican wanting to tax sales the occur on online forums and make the forum operator the responsible party.Amazon has alraedy knuckled under in regards to sales tax collection,without the State even having to go to court.At the moment I do not think our leaders know how much revenue they are missing through forum sales.When someone brings the figure and a plan to their attention I could easily see an attempt to tax sales in the marketplace

EDIT: In short,the days of no tax on items purchased on the internet are numbered.

EDIT: I hope many can accept that I cannot turn my neck but a very slight amount (anterior and posterior cervical fusions,only 1 week ago) I make spelling and grammar errors that get by,sorry,I ask for tolerance.
Edited by PCCstudent - 12/7/12 at 1:05pm
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post #23 of 30
Bump.

I will be cleaning the FS/wanted section of all unmaintained listing later on today.

Any unmaintained listings closed after today will result in action being taken, so please everyone close your listings.


13.1 Listing Maintenance: You must close your listing using the close this listing button found in the first post when you wish to stop bumping the listing or when all items are sold.

13.2 You must maintain your listing (bumping it or closing it using the buttons in the first post when required). Listings over 30 days of the last bump will be closed by the marketplace staff.

13.3 Failure to Maintain the listing: First offense will result in a PM warning, Second offense will result in a official warning being issued, a third offense will result in a 30 day ban from the marketplace, a fourth offense will result in a permanent ban from the marketplace.
post #24 of 30
I wish there was a way to clean up sales threads that scramble many items together and after reading through the entire post you find one item is still available.I don't get those multiple item want threads with a price of 1.00.Is it just some number must be inputed.Same goes with multiple item sales and a price of 1.00. You have to get into the thread too deeply to find if an iten is still available and at what price.My suggestion is a clean up each time 25% of your items sell.

Bitemarks: here is a link about onlinesales tax collection.I picked the one that looked the fairest.The key is if OCN (the website) ever gets designated a retailer because of the marketplace.Stranger things have happened when politicians search for revenue.
http://www.pewstates.org/projects/stateline/headlines/congress-likely-to-postpone-online-sales-tax-collection-85899438773
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post #25 of 30
Sellers are supposed to mark items as sold so you shouldn't need to go any further than the OP to see if an item is still available, I know this doesn't always happen but we do have a rule in place for it.
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Upon completion of a successful sale or trade, items should be marked SOLD or TRADED. Sold or TRADED items are not to be deleted from For Sale threads as this makes the buyer/seller feedback system confusing.

As for the article I may be reading wrong due to having a few beers tonight but it is talking about the likes of Newegg collecting taxes at the point of sale just like brick and mortar stores do rather than having customers file and pay the taxes(which most people do not).
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Consumers are already technically required to pay sales taxes on online purchases, but few do when the sellers themselves don’t collect them. While the exact amount is uncertain, it’s clear that billions of dollars a year are at stake for states.

Sales tax have never been levied against individuals selling second hand items nor the places they use to sell those items. Tax should have already been paid on the items that are sold here when the members buy them so taxing them again does not make sense, not to mention OCN is Canadian so the US could not get any taxes from Shogun Interactive Development AFAIK.

If it came into effect as you think eBay would be responsible for collecting tax on any item sold on there, Craigslist would be responsible for collecting tax, people having yard sales would have to pay tax.
post #26 of 30
Bitemarks,perhaps just a thicker lineout can be used when a seller has a long list if items and some are sold.At times that lineout is so thin it is hard to tell.In the sales that involve multiple items why do we continue to allow the "Headline" for the sale to be an item that is already sold,perhaps this can be modified in some way.

About the salestax situation.You look at ebay and Craiglist for you examples of what is the current situation.I look at what Amazon did (which is voluntairly add sales tax if the item has some connection with a physical location in the States.I do see you guys have a extra layer of protection(the border) But I could see in perhaps 3-5 years websites with marketplaces told to make sure buyer and seller pay sales tax.Here in my State AZ I must pay sales tax on a used car and of course sales tax was paid when the car was new.When Politicians (or people that work for politicians) get told to start looking for revenue and they become more aware of the internet market I do believe we will see more attempta to tax online sales (something motivated Amazon).Is the border perfect protection from our marketplace being told to collect sales tax,I say no,simply because I know how much revenue has been lost due to the economic downturn and how creative and busy lawmakers can get when it involves revenue.

EDIT: It is somewhat foreboading that the link I provided is called
The Marketplace Fairness Act. As far as things remeining reasonable here in the states,we have had kids get their lemonade stands closed down due to local ordances.

EDIT: Here is a link about a law in Penn. that asks people if they bought online and then asks them to pay a 6% sales tax.I have been looking the law over for exemptions for website marketplaces based outside the US and what exactly is the policy on used items.This exact info is sometimes hard to pull out of an article.Happy Reading
http://triblive.com/x/leadertimes/news/s_764704.html#axzz2GmZH4ZVd
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post #27 of 30
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Here in my State AZ I must pay sales tax on a used car and of course sales tax was paid when the car was new

Do you pay tax if you buy from an individual or only from a car salesman. I am guessing that tax does not apply when buying from an individual if that is correct then the same applies here.

OCN is not selling items and has nothing to do with the sale of items.

People who have yard sales do not pay tax on their sales.

This is getting quite OT now but if you want to continue this discussion please PM me.
post #28 of 30
is the 35 rep rule still required to post in the marketplace? i have been around for a while now but not much active on the daily basis...not sure about the rep system works. I cant even post in the Wanted section frown.gif
post #29 of 30
The 35 rep requirement is still in place for creating listings but you can still reply to open listings.
If you have something to sell then look at the wanted listings to see if anyone is wanting your item and then PM them.
If you want to buy something look at the for sale listings.
post #30 of 30
Yes that's what I have been doing so far...I am looking for some specific stuff which no one is selling ATM so it really sucks
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