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not the same as SLI 580. they are like 10 fps better, but i m saying less power usage and brand new games have less problems with profiles at launch date.

also your case will run cooler and you have more VRAM to play with if you decide to upgrade your monitors later. unlike the 500 series you don't need SLI to go 3 monitor gaming with 600 series
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I am in the same boat as you. I have a watercooled GTX580 and the block I have on it is pretty rare. I really wanted to go SLI just for the fun of it, I like having multiple gpu's in my system, but by the time I buy the waterblock (100) and a used 580 to put it on, and upgrade my pump, I will have spent almost $500. I dont really like the kepler GPU's hence the reason I dont just simply upgrade to a 600 series card.

Also, a GTX670 is nowhere near SLI 580 performance. SLI 580s are faster than a 680.
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>> I'm an nvidia loyalist. biggrin.gif No seriously, I prefer nvidia all the way.
>> Why? I have a Sandy Bridge i5 socket 1155, the Ivy Bridge socket 2011 i7s are much, much more performant no? It's also about being future proof... Of course my i5 is sufficinet for practically everything as of now, but computer performances and system demands increase so fast....

For gaming? Hardly.

You aready have a cpu/mobo setup that will still work great for a few years, why even concern yourself with that.

You say you want to future proof but you already are LOL

As for the graphics, forget the 580, get either 670s or 7970/7950s and that's it, new gpu tech is much better.

I have a friend playing BF3 all on ULTRA 1080p res with 60fps+ with a single 670, I though that was quite impressive. (I believe the fps was in the 80s somewhere)
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Thanks to everyone for your insight.

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I am in the same boat as you. I have a watercooled GTX580 and the block I have on it is pretty rare. I really wanted to go SLI just for the fun of it, I like having multiple gpu's in my system, but by the time I buy the waterblock (100) and a used 580 to put it on, and upgrade my pump, I will have spent almost $500. I dont really like the kepler GPU's hence the reason I dont just simply upgrade to a 600 series card.
Also, a GTX670 is nowhere near SLI 580 performance. SLI 580s are faster than a 680.

Hah! biggrin.gif

An "nvidia enthusiast" who's "in the same boat as me". I will single out your comment since it contradicts the others so I'm compelled....

I must confess that I haven't quite followed the news lately about computers since I bought my system, so may I ask why you don't like the Kepler GPU's? What's the problem with those?

" a GTX670 is nowhere near SLI 580 performance. SLI 580s are faster than a 680" Well that's what common sense tell me... I certainly would have thought that an SLI 580 would perform better than a single 600 series, obviously.... > Can you please backup this statement with some benches or anything?

The only thing that frustrates me is the VRAM, a single 670 / 680 still beats a SLI 580 in terms of memory which is better for very high resolutions I think...
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You can go and read any review that includes SLI 580's if you want proof. Or a review that includes a 590, because SLI 580s are also faster than a 590.

There is some data here:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_680_sli_review,12.html


I dont like Kepler GPU's because I do a lot of CUDA development, and use compute heavy applications. A good example is Folding@home. The kepler GPU's have far inferior compute power compared to the Fermi line. Also, im not a huge tree hugging fan of this "power efficiency" thing. Im all for making cool and quiet GPU's but I dont think it should have been given as much priority by nvidia as it did. Performance should always be #1.
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The only thing that frustrates me is the VRAM, a single 670 / 680 still beats a SLI 580 in terms of memory which is better for very high resolutions I think...

Depends on your GTX 580. I have a pair of 3GB EVGA GTX 580's and they have more memory than many of the GTX 670/680 ... many of which only have 2GB of memory.

My 580's also overclock MUCH better than the 6xx series, because I can overvolt them to 1.1V and OC them by 25-30%.

Also, since I am a Folder, I get much better PPD using 2 GTX 580's than 1 GTX 670/680 ... because while it is slower stock, because I can OC them higher, and running 2 work units at once, I smoke people using just 1 GTX 670/680.

As far as games go, they can handle anything I care to throw at them.

The one thing that 2 580's do fall short on vs 1 670/680 ... power. They are power hogs by themselves, and a pair of them are doubly so. But then again, I run a 1kw power supply, so it's not a big deal.

For me, the choice to go from 1 580 to 2 was easy. I already had a good 3GB 580. When the 6xx came out, people were looking to sell their old stuff cheap and get "The latest and greatest", so I picked my new 2nd card up CHEAP.
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>> I'm an nvidia loyalist. biggrin.gif No seriously, I prefer nvidia all the way.
>> Why? I have a Sandy Bridge i5 socket 1155, the Ivy Bridge socket 2011 i7s are much, much more performant no? It's also about being future proof... Of course my i5 is sufficinet for practically everything as of now, but computer performances and system demands increase so fast....

Well, I do like my Nvidia cards too. But AMD really stepped up their game with this generation of cards, they are faster, cheaper and have more VRAM than their Nvidia counterparts.. A GTX 670 will not be the same performance as SLI 580s, but the 580s will become obsolete pretty fast due to the 1.5GB of VRAM. A single 680 is about the same performance as SLI 580s.

If you are only gaming, the difference between a 2011 socket and your 1155 socket will be minimal. Save it for a worth while upgrade. Your i5 should be good (for games) for years to come. If you do choose to go 2011 socket, you will still be getting a sandy bridge chip since the ivy 2011 chips have not been released yet AFAIK.
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There is some data here:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_680_sli_review,12.html .

Wow, now that is interesting... The benches show absolutely no difference in FPS from a 580 SLI to a 680 SLI.... it's a pity they have omitted to show performances for a single 580 but from what I recall from previous tests, there doesn't seem to be that much diffrence between a 580 and a 680 if I am to believe these benches...
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I dont like Kepler GPU's because I do a lot of CUDA development, and use compute heavy applications. A good example is Folding@home. The kepler GPU's have far inferior compute power compared to the Fermi line. Also, im not a huge tree hugging fan of this "power efficiency" thing. Im all for making cool and quiet GPU's but I dont think it should have been given as much priority by nvidia as it did. Performance should always be #1.

Thanks for this. As I said, I haven't quite followed the news since the new 600 series were released, OK I see you have a truckload of nvidia GPUs, so what you're saying is that the new 600 series are not that great and nvidia have banked on hte power efficiency issue but 680s are not that much more performant than 580s? Can you confirm this?


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Depends on your GTX 580.

Yes but that's not the point, obviously I was not talking in general but I was talking about my case. Which is, I have an Asus GTX580 Matrix Platinum with 1.5gb.
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My 580's also overclock MUCH better than the 6xx series, because I can overvolt them to 1.1V and OC them by 25-30%.

Now THAT is some interesting piece of info... So apparently Fermi chips are better at computing than the new Kepler ones?

/ / /


So what it boils down to now is, for the same amount of money I can sell my card and get me a new 680 with 2gb or even 4gb, or keep my 580 and buy myself a second 580 Matrix while I still can,, so I have much more horsepower but less VRAM.

What do? Is 1.5 gb enough if I want to go on a big screen or on 3 screen later?
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Wow, now that is interesting... The benches show absolutely no difference in FPS from a 580 SLI to a 680 SLI.... it's a pity they have omitted to show performances for a single 580 but from what I recall from previous tests, there doesn't seem to be that much diffrence between a 580 and a 680 if I am to believe these benches...
Thanks for this. As I said, I haven't quite followed the news since the new 600 series were released, OK I see you have a truckload of nvidia GPUs, so what you're saying is that the new 600 series are not that great and nvidia have banked on hte power efficiency issue but 680s are not that much more performant than 580s? Can you confirm this?
Yes but that's not the point, obviously I was not talking in general but I was talking about my case. Which is, I have an Asus GTX580 Matrix Platinum with 1.5gb.
Now THAT is some interesting piece of info... So apparently Fermi chips are better at computing than the new Kepler ones?
/ / /
So what it boils down to now is, for the same amount of money I can sell my card and get me a new 680 with 2gb or even 4gb, or keep my 580 and buy myself a second 580 Matrix while I still can,, so I have much more horsepower but less VRAM.
What do? Is 1.5 gb enough if I want to go on a big screen or on 3 screen later?

1.5GB is barely enough for games right now at 1080p. BF3 is already using 2GB or more in some cases @ 1080p.
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