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post #21 of 33
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Ok, SP1 is installed, BIOS flash successful, and a 3 hour run of memtest shows that the RAM is all good. I'm starting from scratch overclocking, so hopefully things go ok. So far, everything is going better then before.

Edit: It seems this time around my temperatures are alot higher, hitting high 70's at 1.35v. I think it must have something to do with AVX being a little harder on the CPU temps, I believe that my IBT results before SP1 were a lot cooler because of this.
Edited by Ausanzil - 11/30/12 at 6:11pm
post #22 of 33
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Well, i got what seems to be a stable 4.4 at 1.32v. There are a few kinks, my audio is acting weird, but other than that all is well. Hopefully ill be able to iron out these things later on.
post #23 of 33

You're right about why the temps are higher.  Now you're stressing the entire CPU, utilizing all of its capabilities.

 

If you have strange audio performance, then I would guess that this is still a pretty unstable overclock.  I feel that any weird little problems like this are signs of instability.

 

 

Edit:  I forgot to ask, and this may seem irrelevant but it's important:  which power supply do you have?  I mean, what's the make and the model?


Edited by TwoCables - 11/30/12 at 9:20pm
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Well, i got what seems to be a stable 4.4 at 1.32v. There are a few kinks, my audio is acting weird, but other than that all is well. Hopefully ill be able to iron out these things later on.

Def would be interested to know the PSU.

Also, did you drop the PPL to 1.709? Really cleared up a lot of my stability issues.
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My PSU is a Cooler Master 1200W Silent pro. Also, yes, I did drop my PLL to 1.709v, but when i put it back to auto, the audio problem became much rarer (Instead of after about 5 minutes, maybe 30minutes or so).

It's also strange, as when the audio go out, everything is still OK. My games will still OK.

Any ideas as to what i could change to help these small problems go away?
Edited by Ausanzil - 12/1/12 at 8:35am
post #26 of 33

The only thing I can recommend right now is to just try increasing the vcore bit by bit.  After a certain point, the audio problem may go away.

 

How long can your system run Prime95's Blend test for?

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The only thing I can recommend right now is to just try increasing the vcore bit by bit.  After a certain point, the audio problem may go away.

How long can your system run Prime95's Blend test for?

+1 on this. Sometimes those dynamic dips in Vcore can cause some serious instability (Chrome crashes, audio issues, etc) Just make sure to not pass the magic threshold and keep temps in line.
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Hmm, its odd. A few minutes of blend test show an error in worker 1, but 75 runs of IBT show nothing. I'm going to try increasing the Vcore a bit, and try re-running blend test to test stability.
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Ok, instead of upping the Vcore, I decided to increment the turbo boost voltage to +.02v and down the PLL to 1.65v. I heard from a friend that the PLL at an even lower rate could help. As for the turbo boost, i noticed that my CPU-Z voltage was at about 1.2880 under load. The turbo boost would put that up to abut 1.299-1.3, which would make sense to help OC by giving it more load voltage,as most of the voltage increases actually only really seem to apply to idle voltage.

After making these 2 adjustments, I ran 75 passes of IBT, went all good, but still failed on Prime95 after a few minutes (Still just worker 1). I decided to try playing a few low stress games which had problems on the old OC, and noticed that the crashes, audio problems and other odd kinks had all vanished. The temperatures even dropped a few degree's too- So as of now, it looks like I've found a way to increase stability in my OC. Tomorrow I'm going to try raising the turbo boost voltage a little more and try Prime95 blend test again, and see if i can pass it.
post #30 of 33
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Hmm, its odd. A few minutes of blend test show an error in worker 1, but 75 runs of IBT show nothing. I'm going to try increasing the Vcore a bit, and try re-running blend test to test stability.

 

If you've ever seen anyone say that IBT is a useless stability test for Sandy and Ivy Bridge, then this is what we mean.  This is especially true if your copy of IBT does not use the AVX instruction set.  I mean, if it's not using the AVX instruction set, then it's actually a waste of time.

 

 

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Ok, instead of upping the Vcore, I decided to increment the turbo boost voltage to +.02v and down the PLL to 1.65v. I heard from a friend that the PLL at an even lower rate could help. As for the turbo boost, i noticed that my CPU-Z voltage was at about 1.2880 under load. The turbo boost would put that up to abut 1.299-1.3, which would make sense to help OC by giving it more load voltage,as most of the voltage increases actually only really seem to apply to idle voltage.
After making these 2 adjustments, I ran 75 passes of IBT, went all good, but still failed on Prime95 after a few minutes (Still just worker 1). I decided to try playing a few low stress games which had problems on the old OC, and noticed that the crashes, audio problems and other odd kinks had all vanished. The temperatures even dropped a few degree's too- So as of now, it looks like I've found a way to increase stability in my OC. Tomorrow I'm going to try raising the turbo boost voltage a little more and try Prime95 blend test again, and see if i can pass it.

 

So continuing from above, the only stability test that's really worth any time is currently Prime95 v27.7 build 2.  It uses the AVX instruction set.  ;)

 

Now, I personally recommend Blend Custom.  That is, select Custom when the Blend test is the current selection.  Then you can tell Prime95 to use about 90% of your memory instead of being stuck with 1600 MB.  You can also customize it other ways that can be useful, but the memory usage is the big one.  Of course, the 64-bit version of Prime95 is required in order to use that much of your memory.

 

The ultimate goal is to pass 12 hours minimum.  This may sound like a lot, but it can be easy if you start the test when you go to bed and then wait until you get home from work or school the next day (or whatever the case may be).

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