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Hello everyone,
My GTX 460s are starting to show their age in the games I wish to play. I am itching for an upgrade and I would appreciate some input from the community.

I am a 1080p gamer on a 24" display. I have a secondary 24" as well, but I game on a singular monitor for now.
I might down the line purchase another 24" and give triple display a go, if I have the firepower. The games I am looking at getting the most out of are as follows.

Heavily Modded Skyrim
Planetside 2
WoW
Metro 2033
Rage
Borderlands 2
Batman: AA and AC

I have read a lot of reviews and debates on the subject. Most of them are a couple months or more old. I wanted to take a temperature of the waters right now and hoped that OCN would help me steer in the right direction when it comes to which Card to choose.

Precursor: Guilty of being an nVidia fan boi. I have only had 2 ATi cards in my lifetime and the last one was an x850. That has to be what like 7+ years ago now. The damn thing is still kicking it in one of my rigs. I have also been pretty heavy on sticking with EVGA.

I have heard nothing but good things about the GTX 670 series...all across the board I hear if you have a budget then go for the GTX 670. The GTX 680 is only about 10% better and cost too much more to warrant a purchase if the purse is tight.

I have also heard that the HD7970 GE is a beast and it destroys the GTX 670 and it also goes head to head with the GTX 680.

Now my dilemma.

I run a Storm scout which is currently unmodified. (Max vid card to fit is 10.6") The GTX 670 4GB edition fits in my case without any modifications.

The HD7970 Ghz Edition would be too large to fit in my scout without cutting into the HDD cage.

Now, I have also been reading up about VRAM and most if not all ppl say...If you run at 1080p you have no need; aside from modding skyrim and running BF3 or the like on ultra settings, for 4GB of VRAM. I have seen some screenies of people proving that wrong in some cases.

If 2GB is totally enough, then why would ATi offer its card with 3GB of RAM. I know the bus is what lends to why it is 3GB and why with the nvidia bus it has to be either 2GB or 4GB.

My goal is to keep this card for 1-2 years. I know that more demanding games will come out next year and with the next gen consoles on the horizon we might finally start seeing more use of our current hardware put to the test you could say.

Most of the reviews and opinions set down within the reviews and discussions I have read sound too one sided. Most of which end up in a flame war...the typical Red v Green BS ensues.

I am asking to put aside the fan boyish egos...

My budget is $460 pre tax.

I do expect to Overclock any card I get


What is the wiser buy? The GTX 670 4GB FTW (Drop in replacement) or the HD7970 Ghz Edition (Tear my whole rig apart and then cut some holes in my case)?

Hell I am even open to other suggestions...I am at the point where I would probably just buy the damned GTX 670 one, just since I am tired of reading about all this stuff. I feel like the information I have been researching is a little dated, and I know that ATi drivers are garbage usually when they first come out. I also know that some games run better on green and some better on Red. I am also totally aware that sometimes one or the other will get completely shafted for periods of time on certain games. (At least in my experience it has)

I just need some direction...regardless if it ends of pointing me opposite of where I stand right now. I hear people saying "Well 2GB is enuff...just grab a GTX 680 FTW 2GB and call it a day". Is it really? 6 months from now am I going to be getting stutter when I hit that 2GB wall. Yeah my card isn't going to be cream of the crop 6 months from now. Hell half the time I buy something it is already behind the curve anyway. I see no better options right now.

Please assist,
-NitroNarcosis
post #2 of 23

http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?id=398#Specification

 

This Powercolor 7970 (only this one) fits in your case. It's 265mm long (10.44 inches). It's not the ghz edition but it still beats the gtx670.

post #3 of 23
Thread Starter 
Out of Stock unfortunately, plus from reviews I have read it has poor cooling that does not lend to great OC ability. sadsmiley.gif
post #4 of 23

Club3d 7970 royal king

 

http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-hd-7970-royalking.html

 

or royal queen?

 

http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-hd-7970-royalqueen.1329.html

 

They are both 10.55 inches

 

EDIT: Forgot that you can't buy club3d in the US. Visiontek's  7970 ghz edition is 10.55inches like it says on techpowerup:

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b533/VisionTek_HD_7970_GHz_Edition.html

 

 

Darn that's the refernce board length...


Edited by noobhell - 11/29/12 at 6:42am
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Thread Starter 
FYI...I live in the U.S. They do not sell in the US.
post #6 of 23
a HD 7950 (900 mhz) matches a GTX 670. overclocked HD 7950(1.15 Ghz) will match or exceed a 1.3 Ghz GTX 670.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/3
http://www.techspot.com/review/603-best-graphics-cards/page3.html

a HD 7950 is 3 - 6% slower than HD 7970 at same clocks.
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/34761-amd-hd-7950-vs-hd-7970-clocks/?page=3

the XFX HD 7950 Black edition is selling for 360 (330 after rebate)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4249665

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/01/xfx_radeon_hd_7950_black_edition_video_card_review/
"The dimensions of the XFX Radeon HD 7950 Black Edition video card are 10.5 inches Long, 1.5 inches Wide, and 4 inches in Height."
Edited by raghu78 - 11/29/12 at 7:36am
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RMA woes a plenty on this card from the egg. I do not wish to travel a road like that...I thank you for the suggestions though.

If I do go with a 7950 or 7970 what is the best brands to choose from on the red side?
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RMA woes a plenty on this card from the egg. I do not wish to travel a road like that...I thank you for the suggestions though. If I do go with a 7950 or 7970 what is the best brands to choose from on the red side?

sapphire and gigabyte.
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RMA woes a plenty on this card from the egg. I do not wish to travel a road like that...I thank you for the suggestions though.
If I do go with a 7950 or 7970 what is the best brands to choose from on the red side?


It doesn't really make a difference. I personally like TUL who produces for Visiontek, Powercolor, Club3d and Vtx3d. Sapphire gives you allot of accesories if you need them and has good quality too.

post #10 of 23
Can you wait until Q1 of 2013? nVidia is due to start releasing their 7xx series of cards...which look very promising.
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