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This whole new genetic evolution is caused by them genetically enhancing all our food base and water base. So i do expect every bit of this lol. But still cool. I want wolverine powers from xman lol

While it's possible that radioactive isotopes in our food & water [and everywhere else] could alter our gametes, I'm pretty sure what you're saying is that GMOs are somehow altering our genes. That's a pretty wild statement that doesn't have a readily apparent mechanism. Care to back it up?

edit: Also, it's not a 'new' genetic evolution, the article is talking about how it's accelerating because of population growth...not some sort of novel mechanism.
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Even with the warping effect of culture and society on evolution, we're still evolving through natural selection. It doesn't matter if we nurture and allow to prosper "defective" people (mental and physical handicaps) because even with society supporting these people they will still be less successful at reproducing then healthy individuals. That lesser success at reproduction is natural selection. It doesn't "harm" our species to nurture and cherish our challenged children.

Or our safety consciousness. Even with how safety conscious we are, people will still kill themselves off through mischance and stupidity. <--- natural selection. Wearing helmets while riding bikes saves lives, but there are still consequences for poor riding skill. With helmets, crashing a bike may only have a 1% mortality rate vs 3% without helmets. That 1% is still going to drive natural selection. (*note, these numbers are completely made up).

And ultimately the day is coming where we will be able to alter our own genetics at whim. Eventually we won't lose harmful mutations over thousands of generations. We'll simply screen for them and ensure we don't pass them on from one generation to the next. Someday there will be no genetic disorders at all. Or at least in prosperous and advanced countries that don't allow religion to hobble scientific advances.
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Someday there will be no genetic disorders at all. Or at least in prosperous and advanced countries that don't allow religion to hobble scientific advances.

Ain't coming any time soon unfortunately. We just need to get rid of religion all together
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To me, this just sounds like natural selection is going to eventually catch up and kill off the "weaker" human beings, rather than propel us into a superhuman race. The net gain is that we're a hardier species as a whole, but only as a result of a die-off.
And I do believe that we are in fact headed towards such a die-off. Perhaps not in our lifetimes, but I see it as inevitable without some crucial technological and economical developments.
Really though, I don't think we should worry about natural selection and evolution. We're human beings. We write our own rules.

Actually because we have basically dominated this planet the chances of natural selection ever having an impact on us is very slim, so we are actually much weaker then we could be, all though we are much smarter so its kind of a catch 22.

I guess for us, natural selection will be something like if we vaccinate each other so much we create a mega virus that wipes out the majority of human life.... This is possible.

But as for traditional natural selection such as hairy greek humans will survive in cold climates and hairless asians dieing, or tall humans picking the apples from trees and short ones dieing of starvation... Yeah you are right, we write own own rules here, I think it will be our rules that lead to our selection...
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we wear jackets and we invented ladders this is how we write our own rules, to a certain point... we are still just sitting on a water covered (mostly) rock in the cold vaccuum of the universe, we are lucky to have made it this far... how did we start anyways?
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we wear jackets and we invented ladders this is how we write our own rules, to a certain point... we are still just sitting on a water covered (mostly) rock in the cold vaccuum of the universe, we are lucky to have made it this far... how did we start anyways?
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we wear jackets and we invented ladders this is how we write our own rules, to a certain point... we are still just sitting on a water covered (mostly) rock in the cold vaccuum of the universe, we are lucky to have made it this far... how did we start anyways?
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dont know why that happened but real sorry frown.gif
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It's not the die off that makes a hardier species. It's all the variations that produce the changes that will give some the best chance to survive.
Loss of variety is always a loss of overall fitness.
I was not saying that from a survival standpoint.
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