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post #11 of 20
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Doesen't Microcenter have a 1440P IPS Screen for like $400?
I'm in canada. sad-smiley-002.gif

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The 850D does not have any input lag and it can scale 16:9 console resolutions properly, the U2412 can't. The U2412>U2312 but you need to turn off the overdrive in the service menu (TFT Central's Review has instructions), otherwise it has noticeable ghosting. Also the Dells use a very grainy matte coating, so if you don't like reflections but want colours to look crisp and clear, get the Samsung since it uses semi-glossy coating, which is the lightest of all matte coatings.
http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/48426_4/Luch_sveta_v_temnom_carstve._Obzor_i_testirovanie_monitora_Samsung_S24A850DW.html
Low-mid range IPS panels commonly vary (big contrast and gamma differences between units), so while the Samsung does cost more, you are more likely to get one with good black levels and colours vs. the Dells, though Dell does have an epic exchange policy. If you are going to get the Samsung buy it from a place with a hassle free return +exchange policy (Amazon, buy.com). A good U2412 will have an 1100:1 contrast ratio, but there have been plenty of reviews and user reports of units which max out around 800:1.
That article listed it as 3.2ms input lag; wow, that is awesome.
I'm not into those anti glare coatings, so it is good to hear that the Samsung one has a semi glossy finish.
I'll most likely buy the monitor in person at Canada Computers, if I get the Samsung one. Canada Computers seems to have a decent return policy.

One thing that worries me is the possibility of dead pixels. Samsung has a short period no bright pixel guarantee, and a 7 dead pixel maximum, whereas Dell has a 3 year zero bright pixel policy and a 5 dead pixel maximum, and an apparently good return policy. I am leaning toward the Dell because of this. I've also heard of some problems with Samsung QC.
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http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0050X2N2K/ref=gno_cart_title_2

Amazon=30 day no hassle return policy. It has light bleeding problems but then so does every other low-mid range display.

If you use Memory Expresses's Price Match policy you can get it for 396$, but they only have a 7 day no hassle return policy.
Edited by MenacingTuba - 11/29/12 at 8:12pm
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post #13 of 20
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http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0050X2N2K/ref=gno_cart_title_2
Amazon=30 day no hassle return policy. It has light bleeding problems but then so does every other display.
If you use Memory Expresses's Price Match policy you can get it for 396$, but they only have a 7 day no hassle return policy.
What's Amazon's policy on Dead pixels, though? I really don't want to have to deal with 6 dead pixels across my screen.

Also, a lot of the Amazon reviews mention backlight bleed, whereas not nearly as great a portion of the dell reviews mention backlight bleed. With the Samsung one costing that much more; the Dell is looking like the way to go.
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for about 190 you could get the lg 21.5 E2251 with vga , dvi and HDMI in , I got one like 2 months ago and I love the monitor
    
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What's Amazon's policy on Dead pixels, though? I really don't want to have to deal with 6 dead pixels across my screen.
Also, a lot of the Amazon reviews mention backlight bleed, whereas not nearly as great a portion of the dell reviews mention backlight bleed. With the Samsung one costing that much more; the Dell is looking like the way to go.

You can exchange it for any reason with Amazon. There are tons of light bleeding reports for the Dell too, and many reviews and users with colorimeters have revealed big contras/black level and gamma differences between the U2412's.

Many people keep their displays brightness cranked and confuse IPS/PLS glow for light-bleeding, so it is best not to go off of customer reports on shopping sites.

It's a win-win situation ordering from Amazon. You pay a bit more for a better display which you can return easily VS. something that has a permanent flaw (grainy matte coating) and potential image quality issues on top of back-light bleeding.
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I have 2 different IPS monitors.

I have the dell U2711. I hate it and love it. Great build quality, great picture and connectivity. The anti glare I HATE. It gets annoying and can strain your eyes if you use it much.

I also have the LG IPS234. It's a piece of crap. For IPS the colors are off, the settings are pathetic. Predefined profiles are crap. Stay away from this one. I will be getting a couple korean monitors to test out next week.
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post #17 of 20
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Well, the U2412m went down to 279.99 on Dell Canada, so I will be getting that. The Samsung one is definitely better, but not $180 better.
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I will be getting a couple korean monitors to test out next week.
Didn't overlord release it's line of non-korean cheap 1440p monitors? Why are people still buying Korean?
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for about 190 you could get the lg 21.5 E2251 with vga , dvi and HDMI in , I got one like 2 months ago and I love the monitor
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Well, the U2412m went down to 279.99 on Dell Canada, so I will be getting that. The Samsung one is definitely better, but not $180 better.
Didn't overlord release it's line of non-korean cheap 1440p monitors? Why are people still buying Korean?

The overlord monitors are still using the korean displays. They are just rebranded and they have an agreement with the supplier for pixel perfect. The issue is that those monitors are on back order currently; they are waiting for the shipments.
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post #20 of 20
For under $400, you're best bet would be the Korean S-IPS monitors. Anything other than the Korean monitors are usually junk in this price range.

If you can stretch your budget, the Dell U2713HM are worth a shot though I wouldn't guarantee better image quality compared to the Korean monitors. It has less severe AG coating than the U2711 however it's an 8 bit panel.

The Dell U2711 is not worth getting considering the price and also because the AG coating worsens image quality.
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